Creme, tratamente, cosmetice etc sigure in sarcina Options

[MonicutzaB]

mi se pare o chestie foarte importanta, daca ii intrebi pe doctori iti sta mintea in loc: unii iti interzic orice fel de crema de corp, sa te vopsesti etc in timp ce altii spun ca e ok sa folosesti aproape orice!!! (IMG:http://www.elady.ro/forums/style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) voi ce stiti?
stiu ca orice pe baza de retinol e interzis, in rest ... no idea.
elle_ni, ma bazez pe tine asa ca baga, pls. (IMG:http://www.elady.ro/forums/style_emoticons/default/kiss.gif)

[angelito]

Monicutza, nici eu nu stiu prea multe, stiu ca si tine ca tot ce contine vitamina A sau derivati in cantitate mare trebuie evitat, si la fel uleiurile esentiale. In afara de asta, trebuie oricum mare grija la alegerea cosmeticelor, pentru ca citeam undeva ca anual "inghitim" in jur de 2 litri de produse prin piele...

La noi se gaseste acum gama Mustela (in farmacii), este special conceputa pentru mamici...

Iata ce-am gasit eu pe net:

Summer Skin Care During Pregnancy
When Beauty Concerns Run More Than Skin Deep

Having beautiful skin during pregnancy or breastfeeding is possible, but some safety measures are necessary to protect you and your baby.

Sunscreens – The sun can damage your skin. It is important to protect your skin to lower your risk of skin cancer. Very little of this product gets into the blood stream so the fetus or the nursing baby won't be exposed when sunscreens are used. Be sure to wash your hands well after applying any lotion so you don't get the product in your or baby's mouth!

Self-tanning lotions – Self-tanning lotions have not been known to cause problems because they are poorly absorbed through skin. Therefore, these products don't get to the fetus or to the breastfeeding infant. However, many of these products do not protect you from the sun's harmful rays so always use sunscreen.

Tanning Beds – The amount of radiation from a tanning bed is low. Birth defects or problems for breastfed babies have not occurred. It's just like being exposed to the sun, so be careful and protect your skin to reduce your risk of skin cancer.

Aloe Vera lotion – Aloe Vera should only be used in lotions and should never be taken orally (by mouth) during pregnancy or while breastfeeding. If taken orally, Aloe Vera could cause cramps, nausea, vomiting and/or diarrhea to you or your breastfed baby.

Mosquito Repellents with DEET (N, N-diethyl-m-toluamide) – It is important to protect yourself against mosquito bites to prevent West Nile virus infection. Using mosquito repellents during pregnancy is a question that brings up many issues. To fully address your questions about mosquito repellents, call the Pregnancy RiskLine (PRL).

Tetracycline/doxycycline/minocycline – The "cycline" drugs can cause the skin to be more sensitive to the sun. A skin rash, itchiness and changes in skin color and sunburns can occur. While taking these medications: wear protective clothing when outdoors, including a hat and sunglasses; always use sunscreens and sun block lip sticks; and avoid sun lamps and tanning beds. These prescription antibiotics can be used in early pregnancy, HOWEVER, when used after the 5th month, staining of the child's primary teeth can occur. Only small amounts of these medications enter into the breastmilk, so teeth staining has not been seen.

Erythromycin or Clindamycin – These antibiotics come in cream or oral form and can be used during pregnancy and breastfeeding. If used orally, watch the nursing infant because allergies can occur, such as a rash and bowl changes (constipation or diarrhea). If either happens, stop taking the medication and call the prescribing doctor.

Benzoyl peroxide – Skin care often includes preventing and treating acne. Benzoyl peroxide has antibacterial properties that help treat acne and may reduce swelling caused by acne. However, it can also dry the skin. If used as directed it can be used in pregnancy and breastfeeding.

Salicylic Acid – If used in a gel, lotion, ointment, pad, soap, or other topical solution, Salicylic Acid can help peel and dry the skin for the treatment of acne and other skin conditions. As with most topical medications, very small amounts of the product are absorbed. Birth defects or problems during breastfeeding are not likely to occur.

Isotretinoin – (Accutane™, Amnesteem™) This is an oral medication for severe acne that can damage a fetus if taken while pregnant. A pattern of birth defects occurs in about 35 percent of infants of women exposed to isotretinoin during the first trimester. This pattern includes craniofacial defects (ears, eyes and bone development), heart defects and central nervous system (brain) defects. This drug creates a significant risk for pregnancy loss (miscarriage) and for delivering the baby too soon. Call the PRL if you are currently pregnant and have used isotretinoin.

Retin-A – A topical prescription cream called tretinoin is also used for the treatment of acne. Although this cream is somewhat related to isotretinoin, it has not been known to cause problems. Less than 10 percent of Retin-A is absorbed into the bloodstream and even less will reach the fetus or a breastfed baby. Retin-A can cause sun sensitivity.


Skin-Care Products and Pregnancy

Problem: I'm pregnant and I'm wondering whether or not retinyl palmitate, AHAs and BHA, skin lighteners, and permanent hair dyes are safe to use. My obstetrician has no opinions and all the pregnancy books I've read either don't have information on specific ingredients or say "better safe than sorry" so don't use any of it. Do you have any thoughts on the safety of these ingredients?

Solution: I want to stress that it is always best to consult your doctor on issues such as this because he or she is the one who is most aware of your personal health and because it's his or her specific field of study. However, I understand that it is frustrating when the doctor you speak to doesn't have an opinion on something you are worried about. The following information is only my viewpoint, and although it is based on research, it is still essential that you review it with your physician.

The reason most obstetricians have little feedback about what cosmetics to use or not to use is that there is little to no research about this kind of toxicity issue for cosmetic ingredients. If it were me, the only thing I would avoid would be prescription retinoids and maybe products with retinol (because of its distant relation to retinoids), but even that's a stretch. Retinyl palmitate (and the small amounts of it used in cosmetics) is so far removed from the prescription ingredient in Renova and Retin-A that it isn't even worth mentioning.

AHAs and BHA have no associated toxicity of any kind so they are not even theoretically a problem for any related health issue other than sun exposure and possible skin irritation. The only possible risk with BHA is that it is related to aspirin, and some obstetricians may be concerned about that association and its effect topically. However, I have seen nothing showing this to be a problem for pregnant women.

Regarding permanent hair dyes, there is limited information about cancer of any kind and nothing about birth defects. I feel there is little to no risk from using hair dyes of any kind, but if you are concerned, the research that is available points to level 3 or permanent black hair dyes. You may want to consider changing to a level 2 dye and staying away from black shades.

There is some controversy over hydroquinone, but nothing about fetuses and nothing proven for health risks even for humans. If anything, the only negative aspects have been produced in in-vitro studies or in studies where it is fed to animals. Those who work with hydroquinone (workers handling and making the stuff) actually have been shown to have lower incidences of cancer than the population as a whole (source: Critical Reviews in Toxicology, May 1999, pages 283–330)!

As many a cosmetic chemist and oncologist has said to me, I'm far more worried about alcohol consumption, cigarette smoking, and second hand cigarette smoke than anything a woman uses as a cosmetic! The rest is up to you and your physician.


Skin Care During Pregnancy


Face it- pregnancy changes everything. Including your skin. Fortunately, there is plenty that you can do for skin care during pregnancy that is safe and effective. Read on to learn about skin care during pregnancy for oily skin and breakouts, as well as skin care during pregnancy for dry skin.

Skin Care During Pregnancy: Oily Skin

During the first trimester, many women experience an increase in breakouts and this is especially true for those who were prone to acne before pregnancy. According to most physicians, the reason for this is the dramatic shift in hormones. With an increase in androgen levels, many women experience an increase in oil production and unsightly breakouts along with it.

Do NOT treat pregnancy-related breakouts with conventional acne medications. Many of these medications are harmful to fetal development and known to cause birth defects. Advise your dermatologist that you are pregnant or are planning to become pregnant, so you can develop a regime that is appropriate for skin care during pregnancy. Avoid all prescription acne medications, including vitamin A preparations such as Accutane or Retin-A. Also avoid over-the-counter creams that contain retinol or antibiotics.
During the first trimester, also do NOT use cleansers, makeup and moisturizers that contain chemical exfoliants. These products include salicylic acid, glycolic acid and alpha and beta hydroxyl acids. Read labels, because many popular products contain these chemicals, and they may not be appropriate for skin care during pregnancy especially not the first trimester. Consult your obstetrician to see if he or she approves of using these medications on your face after the first trimester.
Do use moisturizers, makeup, sunblock and cleansers that are labeled "noncomedogenic" or "nonacnegenic". These products are designed to keep your pores clean and clear, to help avoid breakouts.
For oily skin care during pregnancy, DO use mechanical exfoliants to keep skin clean and physically remove pore-clogging dead skin cells from the surface of your skin. Gentle scrubs with very fine particles are most appropriate, and you can make your own scrub by adding a small amount of baking soda to an appropriate cleanser.
DO try a cleansing facial at a salon every two weeks or so for gentle, thorough cleansing. Advise the salon of your condition, and let them know that you are avoiding vitamin A preparations and chemical exfoliants.
The fundamentals of oily skin care during pregnancy:


Use a gentle, nondrying cleanser on your face twice daily. Avoid moisturizing soaps, since they contain emollients that can clog pores in the meantime.
Stay out of the sun, and apply an oil-free sunblock every day.
Scrub with a mechanical exfoliant three times a week.
Use a clarifying mask to gently coax the oil out of your pores once a week.
Skin Care During Pregnancy: Dry Skin

Women who are prone to dry skin may find this to be even more of a problem during pregnancy, both on the face and all over the body. During pregnancy, you carry an increased volume of blood along with the need to provide body fluids to sustain your growing baby. With all of these demands for fluid, moisture is taken away from your skin and diverted to address these other needs. The result is very dry, and often itchy skin.

Recommendations for Dry Skin Care During Pregnancy


Do NOT use anti-itch ointments that contain cortisone or hydrocortisone. It is not yet known how these chemicals affect your developing baby, so until conclusive clinical trials demonstrate that these medications are safe your best bet is to avoid them. . While it's not proven that they affect the baby's development, there have been no clinical studies performed to make sure they don't affect your baby, so your best bet is to avoid them. (TRY BLOOMING BODY BELLY BLISS for your itchy skin; it soothes skin on contact and eliminates itch using natural ingredients that are proven safe for use during pregnancy.)
DO drink more water. This is your first line of defense, to keep your skin hydrated from the inside, out.
The fundamentals of dry skin care during pregnancy:


Wash your face twice daily with a gentle cleanser formulated for dry skin.
Use a rich, emollient moisturizer and sunblock.
If your skin is extra flaky, remove the dead skin cells with a mechanical exfoliant.
Use a moisturizing mask once a week.
Keep rooms well humidified.
Don't bathe too much -- and when you do, take short, lukewarm showers and baths. On your body, use a gentle moisturizing soap (such as Blooming Body Butter Me UP! Or So Sensitive!)
Moisturize from head to toe with a rich cream such as Belly Bliss to trap water in your skin
For very dry skin, apply oil after every shower, then top with a moisturizing cream or butter. We recommend our Resilience oil, followed by Belly Bliss.


Vegan Pregnancy
Recognizing Changes and Nurturing your Skin during Pregnancy
by Jaqulene Harper-Roth
For the most part, pregnancy skin needs to be nurtured, hydrated, and protected. Basic, natural skin care is not difficult. Use as few products as possible, and remember that your skin requires very little handling. Complicated cleansing, exfoliation, and moisturizing rituals are not only time-consuming they're expensive and more hazardous, than beneficial. A caressing massage is sensual and wonderful, but unnecessary touching, rubbing, squeezing or pH disruption can irritate and inflame the skin and can also induce acne, pimples and other blemishes.

If your skin becomes irritated through the use of a particular skin-care product, or cosmetic, before rushing out to buy another brand, go au natural for a few days, to allow it to calm down and balance itself again. Then carefully introduce another product and watch for reactions. The best type of skin-care during pregnancy is chemical-free (and fetus-safe). That's no commercial product at all. Making all your own skin-care products is cheap and fun, but if this is just too unrealistic for your lifestyle, do the next best thing and use only the best. Try to find 'natural products' with no artificial preservatives, fragrances and, especially important, no artificial dyes. Also, keep in mind that most commercially available skin care products, especially moisturizers, lotions and creams, have a predetermined shelf life, and contain oils, and although they are preserving to the formula, they will also become rancid. To prolong the life of your favorite product, keep them refrigerated.

There is no doubt that sun-protection is the best skin-moisturizer available. The sun is your skin's number one enemy. Tanned skin is no longer viewed as healthy, or beautiful. But pregnancy skin still does require the sun's ray spectrum, for the cutaneous synthesis of vitamin D. The sunshine vitamin is also crucial for correct bone formation (for both you and your baby) and for absorbing and utilizing calcium. Fifteen minutes a day before 10am, or after 5pm is the safest time for a health promoting sunshine bath. The vitamin D you can get from taking supplements, or consuming dairy products, and fish, has been shown to impair magnesium absorption, and once absorbed, the liver has to convert it into an active form, before the body can use it.

Beware of chemical formulated sunscreens, which unfortunately lure us all into a false sense of security, believing we can stay in the sun longer, because (after all) we are protected from the damaging rays. As it stands, although today's sunscreens protect you from UVB rays, the more deeply (and thus more damaging), penetrating UVA rays are unaffected by sunscreen protection. UVA rays can reach deep down into the dermis, attacking the melanocytes, which can become cancerous and lead to malignant melanoma. Also, UVB blocking sunscreens interfere with the body's production of vitamin D, and since vitamin D has a hormone-like effect in our body, it has been shown to interfere with the growth of tumors.

Apart from the healthy skin-required, ten minutes a day sun bath the best, and safest form of sun protection is to cover-up with fabrics and colors that block all the sun rays and keep you cool, too. Remember, even if it doesn't feel like you're burning, it doesn't mean that you're not. Beware of cosmetics and skin-care products that contain sunscreen or UV inhibitor ingredients, as they have been found to cause allergic reactions, photosensitivity, and varying degrees of contact dermatitis. The newer sunscreens are even more skin-hazardous then familiar brands, as they include formulations of UVB, UVA and UVC inhibitors, such as benzophenone, titanium dioxide and para-aminobenzoic acid. These chemicals, you may be surprised to learn, are known as some of the world's most powerful free radicals. Anyone who knows anything about premature skin aging, (especially photo-aging), knows that cross-linking is caused by free radical damage, which in turn leads to the development of wrinkles, or worse, melanoma and other skin cancers.

If you have any questions concerning natural pregnancy skin health and beauty, make-up or hair care, or if you would like to share some of your 'skin secrets', or beauty tips, please feel free to contact Jaqulene, emailing all your questions or tips to rothbeauty@lycos.com.

An author, holistic nutritionist, and home-herbalist Jaqulene Harper-Roth is also a vegetarian mom of three. Her books, The Pregnancy Herbal (Crown Books) will be available April 2001, and Beautiful Face, Beautiful Body (Berkley Books 2000) can be found in books stores throughout the United States.

Skin Changes


Different women have different kinds of skin changes during pregnancy.

Causes of Skin Changes During Pregnancy
Changes in hormone levels during pregnancy can produce a wide range of skin changes: from stretch marks to acne to darkening of the skin. Most of these changes disappear shortly after delivery.

Acne. During early pregnancy, some women develop acne, especially those who were prone to breakouts during menstrual periods before becoming pregnant. On the other hand, some women find that acne improves during pregnancy.
Bluish or blotchy legs. For some women, especially those who live in cold climates, increased hormone production can cause temporary discoloration or blotchy skin in the legs. This usually disappears after delivery.
Chloasma ("mask of pregnancy" or melasma). Some women experience a brownish darkening of the facial skin. This change is called the "mask of pregnancy." It is more common in women with dark hair and pale skin. The woman usually has brownish, uneven marks on the forehead, temples and middle of her face. Sometimes the marks appear around the eyes or over the nose. The darkened areas may get even darker when exposed to sunlight. These marks usually fade completely after delivery.
"Glowing" skin. Blood flow increases during pregnancy, including the tiny vessels just beneath the surface of your skin. Pregnancy hormones also cause skin glands to release oil, which may leave your face shiny. The result of these two factors may be a healthy "glow."
Itchiness. Many pregnant women have itchy skin, particularly around the belly and breasts during the second and third trimesters. This happens as the skin stretches to adapt to your body's growth.
Linea nigra (dark line on the belly). For many women, extra pigment (coloring) in the skin causes a dark line to appear, running from the navel to the pubic area. This line fades after delivery.
Nails. For some women, hormonal changes may cause the fingernails and toenails to grow faster than usual or to become brittle or soft.
Puffiness. During the third trimester, your eyelids and face may become puffy, usually in the morning. This is because of increased blood circulation. This condition is harmless. But if you have puffiness along with a sudden weight increase, contact your health care provider to rule out other potential problems.
Rashes. Many women perspire more during pregnancy because of the effect of hormones on the sweat glands. This can increase the chances of getting heat rashes. Late in pregnancy, some women also develop harmless but itchy red bumps on the belly. These can spread to the buttocks, arms and legs, causing discomfort.
Red or itchy palms. Increases in the hormone estrogen may cause your palms to become red and itchy. For some women, this may also affect the soles of their feet. Like most skin changes that occur during pregnancy, the redness should fade after delivery.
Skin tags. Skin tags are small, soft, flesh-colored growths or flaps that protrude from your skin. They usually form on the neck, breasts or armpits. They are most likely caused by hormonal changes. Skin tags do not go away on their own after delivery. A health care provider can easily remove them.
Stretch marks. As the breasts and abdomen grow, most women develop stretch marks across the belly and breasts. These small, depressed streaks of differently textured skin can be pink, reddish-brown or dark brown, depending on the woman's skin color. Some women also get them on their buttocks, thighs, hips or breasts. These marks are caused by tiny tears in the tissue that lies just below your skin and helps the skin stretch. There is no way to prevent stretch marks during pregnancy. They usually fade and become less noticeable after delivery. You may see creams to treat stretch marks in the drug store. It isn't clear whether these creams work.
Spider veins. Some pregnant women have spider veins on the face, neck, upper chest or arms. These small, red spots have lines branching out from them. Spider veins are tiny blood vessels that appear because of increased blood circulation. Hormonal changes may cause them. These marks disappear or fade after delivery.
Skin darkening. In most pregnant women, hormonal changes cause darkening of skin that is already darker than the rest of the woman's skin. This darkening may be most obvious in freckles, moles, areolas (colored rings around the breast nipples), nipples, labia (the genital tissue outside of the vagina) and the inner thighs. Some of this darkening may fade after delivery. But these areas are likely to remain darker than they were before pregnancy.
Skin Changes: What You Can Do
Many skin changes during pregnancy are unavoidable. Most disappear on their own after delivery. These tips may help reduce or treat common skin problems that occur during pregnancy:

Skin cleansing. Good skin cleansing is the best way to avoid or treat acne breakouts. Wash your face with a mild cleanser two or three times a day. Don't wash too often or the skin may become dry, aggravating the problem.

IMPORTANT: Do not take any acne medications or over-the-counter treatments without checking with your health care provider. Some of these are not safe for pregnant women to use. Accutane (also called isotretinoin, Amnesteem and Claravis) is a prescription medication used to treat severe acne. It is a member of a family of drugs called retinoids. Accutane and other retinoids can cause very serious birth defects.
Sun protection. Your skin is more sensitive during pregnancy. Good sun protection is very important at this time. Sunlight can darken pigment changes in your skin and increase your chances of getting "mask of pregnancy." Use a good sun block, cover up, and wear a hat when outside. Limit the time you spend outdoors between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m.
Make-up. Cover-up and foundation can help hide dark streaks or spots on the skin. Avoid make-ups that contain mercury. Look at the label to see if the make-up contains mercury.
Stretch marks. You won't be able to avoid stretch marks entirely. It will help if you gain only the recommended amount of weight (usually 25 to 35 pounds), and do so slowly.
Moisturizers. Moisturize your belly and your breasts to reduce itchiness and dry skin. To avoid skin irritation, use unscented moisturizer. Use mild soap when washing. Avoid hot showers or baths. They can dry out the skin.
Excessive heat. Heat can intensify itchiness and rashes. When you go out in warm weather, wear loose-fitting, cotton clothing.
When to Talk to Your Health Care Provider
Most skin changes during pregnancy are harmless and painless. A few conditions might require medical attention:

Severe itchiness. Severe itchiness, particularly in the third trimester, can be a sign of intrahepatic cholestasis of pregnancy (ICP). This is a liver problem that affects a very small percentage of pregnant women. Symptoms include severe itchiness all over the skin and sometimes nausea, vomiting, fatigue, yellowing of the skin and loss of appetite. Talk to your health care provider right away if you feel that you might have this condition. ICP does not harm a woman's health, but it can hurt the baby. Women who have ICP are more likely to have stillbirths or to deliver prematurely. Premature babies are at increased risk of health problems and lasting disabilities. ICP usually goes away on its own after delivery.
Skin darkening with other symptoms. Certain types of skin darkening can be a sign of a serious problem. Let your health care provider know if changes in skin color are accompanied by pain, tenderness, redness or bleeding, or if you notice any changes in the color, shape or size of a mole.
Puffiness of the eyelids. Some puffiness of the eyelids is normal during the third trimester. But contact your health care provider if you suddenly gain five pounds or more. This could mean that you are retaining too much fluid and have high blood pressure.
Always talk to your health care provider before using any medicated creams or ointments to treat skin problems. Some are unsafe during pregnancy.

[MonicutzaB]

wow, cate informatii! merci mult. (IMG:http://www.elady.ro/forums/style_emoticons/default/kiss.gif) chiar ma intrebam de autobronzant daca e OK sa-l folosesc.o sa ma mai uit o data si ingrediente.
stiu ca aspirina este contraindicata in sarcina dar oare daca imi aplic masca cu aspirina o data pe sapt o avea ceva?! (IMG:http://www.elady.ro/forums/style_emoticons/default/magindesc.gif) cantitatea asimilata in acest fel ar trebui sa fie extrem de mica. anyway, o sa-mi intreb si doctorul.

[angelito]

Cu placere, Monicutza, si scuze pentru romanul fluviu!!

Cat despre masca respectiva, sincer nu cred si nu vad cum ti-ar putea dauna, mai ales ca este un produs pe care il inlaturi de pe piele...

[elle_ni]

Monicutza, don't tell me.....ai un bebe in burtica?Felicitari de o mie de ori (IMG:http://www.elady.ro/forums/style_emoticons/default/kiss.gif) !

In sarcina ai voie sa te cremuisti, dar cremele sa nu contina retinol sau cafeina.E indicat ca pielea sa fie extrem de bine hidratata, asta pe langa cei 2.5 litri de apa vitali bunastarii likidului amniotic si bineinteles bebelului care se hraneste din acest likid.

Este indicat sa iti dai generos cu crema pe corp inca din luna 3-4 (cam de cand incepe sa creasca burtica, pentru a preintampina aparitia vergeturilor....desi studiile spun ca totusi hidratarea pileii cu ajutorul cremelor nu ar fi relevanta in aparitia vergeturilor).

Vopseaua este bine a se evita, in skimb tot ce este 100% natural poate fi folosit, cu mici exceptii (sunt cateva plante care nu ar trebui utilizate in sarcina).

Nu fdt, Nu pudra (le poti utiliza ocazional).Nu afecteaza fatul, ci numai aspectul pielii tale.

Nu epilat brazilian, Nu epilat cu ceara din luna a 5 a.Provoaca contractii.
Revin cu detalii.
Daca ai intrbari in mod deosebit, iti raspund cu cea mai amre placere (in limita cunostintelor mele).

Inca o data "fel;icitari si pupicei pe burtica (IMG:http://www.elady.ro/forums/style_emoticons/default/kiss.gif)

[bubulina]

Monicutza, don't tell me.....ai un bebe in burtica?Felicitari de o mie de ori (IMG:http://www.elady.ro/forums/style_emoticons/default/kiss.gif) !

In sarcina ai voie sa te cremuisti, dar cremele sa nu contina retinol sau cafeina.E indicat ca pielea sa fie extrem de bine hidratata, asta pe langa cei 2.5 litri de apa vitali bunastarii likidului amniotic si bineinteles bebelului care se hraneste din acest likid.

Este indicat sa iti dai generos cu crema pe corp inca din luna 3-4 (cam de cand incepe sa creasca burtica, pentru a preintampina aparitia vergeturilor....desi studiile spun ca totusi hidratarea pileii cu ajutorul cremelor nu ar fi relevanta in aparitia vergeturilor).

Vopseaua este bine a se evita, in skimb tot ce este 100% natural poate fi folosit, cu mici exceptii (sunt cateva plante care nu ar trebui utilizate in sarcina).

Nu fdt, Nu pudra (le poti utiliza ocazional).Nu afecteaza fatul, ci numai aspectul pielii tale.

Nu epilat brazilian, Nu epilat cu ceara din luna a 5 a.Provoaca contractii.
Revin cu detalii.
Daca ai intrbari in mod deosebit, iti raspund cu cea mai amre placere (in limita cunostintelor mele).

Inca o data "fel;icitari si pupicei pe burtica (IMG:http://www.elady.ro/forums/style_emoticons/default/kiss.gif)

De ce nu e voie sa se foloseasca fdt si pudra?