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Xela
post Jan 26 2006, 11:22 AM
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Mie mi s-a sugerat (desi candida nu este acum in cantitati anormale) ca de cate ori voi lua antibiotice sa iau si ovule.
Antibioticele au si ele un rol foarte important in declansarea candidei.
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post Jan 26 2006, 11:59 AM
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am citit ca poti ajunge ca la candida sa ii placa anumite ovule care tu crezi ca ar slabi-o cand de fapt o intaresc
fiecare cu placerile ei...pe sanatatea noastra  8)

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Este adevarat ca, candida albicans "se hraneste" cu lactare si cu zaharide ...deci va trebui sa raresti spre deloc produsele lactate si dulciurile, zaharul....


ce nesimtita, dom'le...nu putea sa-i placa alcoolul si cafeaua?k de-astea nu consum, de ce tocmai lactatele?nu-i bai cu dulciurile, sa le pape gaia, k mie nu-mi plac...

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Inca nu mi-am facut pt ca mi-a trecut...dar am auzit ca se face si antibiograma pt candida...adica laboratorul iti va da clar rezultatul la ce ovule esti rezistenta si la care nu.


asta ar insemna refacerea analizei....alte drumuri, alti bani  :-X...
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post Jan 26 2006, 12:01 PM
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Mie mi s-a sugerat (desi candida nu este acum in cantitati anormale) ca de cate ori voi lua antibiotice sa iau si ovule.
Antibioticele au si ele un rol foarte important in declansarea candidei.


deci, sa intelg ca fiecare organism are o anumita rezistenta la anumite ovule...adica ce iti recomnada tie, mie s-ar putea sa nu-mi faca bine, nu?

deci, iarasi, o antibiograma ar fi binevenita...
multumesc mult Xela...
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post Jan 26 2006, 12:06 PM
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Xela, inca o rugaminte mai am la tine, penturca vad ca esti patita cu multe:va trebui sa repet acesta analiza, si nu stiu un de s-o fac.data trecuta am facut-o la IDS, dar nu mai am prea mare incredere in ei, de cand bebelului meu i-ai scos"giardia" la analize, iar acelesi analize la cantacuzino au iesit curate....

ar fi indicat sa fac si pentru mine tot 2 analize la 2 centre diferite, pentru siguranta analizei?

iar in ceea ce priveste streptococul asta, nu sunt sanse ca el sa dispara cumva definitiv?eu stiam k destafolococul auriu nu prea scapi (sunt sfnata posesoare si al astuia, sau, ma rog, l-am exterminat anul trecut, dar, vorba ta, cine stier pe unde-si face de cap...)

bai, da stafilococii astia si strptococii si acneea de ce Dumnezeu apar?de la imunitate deficitara sau din ce cauza?
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post Jan 26 2006, 01:02 PM
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:offtopic:  Elle, sa stii ca giardia iese foarte greu la analize. Poti sa faci de 4 ori si sa iasa negativ iar a 5-a oara sa iasa pozitiv. Daca a iesit pozitiv la un laborator si la altul nu, asta nu inseamna ca nu are giardia.

Si eu am fost diagnosticata cu candida. Si numai un ovul ma costa 20 RON  :( .
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post Jan 26 2006, 01:14 PM
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DA....ce mi-a mers mie s-ar putea ca tie sa nu iti faca bine si aici ma refer la ovule.
Pentru analize pt antibiograma candida: iti va recolta ginecologul, iar apoi o sa duci tu mostra la laborator (in Timisoara eu stiu ca Bioclinica face analizele calumea...eu tot la ei imi fac...nu stiu daca sunt si in Bucuresti).
Nu cred ca ar fi indicat sa mergi la 2 centre diferite...Gaseste-ti doar un centru bun in care sa vezi ca aia stiu sa iti raspunda la intrebari....Sfatul meu: nu accepta raspunsuri de genul vaginita cum am facut eu pana anul trecut (de ex vaginita e o superclasa de boli).

Cu streptococii, stafilococii...eu stiu ca se fac de la faptul ca ai consumat multe antibiotice, medicamente. La mine sigur asta a fost motivul fiindca, cand eram mica la orice chichitza baga bunicamea medicamente in mine.

Da...si imunitatea are un rol foarte important la gandacii astia...asa ca intaresteti-o.  Si imunitatea ti-o poti verifica daca e in regula, facand imunograma(test de laborator de sange).
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post Jan 26 2006, 02:39 PM
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:offtopic:  Elle, sa stii ca giardia iese foarte greu la analize. Poti sa faci de 4 ori si sa iasa negativ iar a 5-a oara sa iasa pozitiv. Daca a iesit pozitiv la un laborator si la altul nu, asta nu inseamna ca nu are giardia.

Si eu am fost diagnosticata cu candida. Si numai un ovul ma costa 20 RON  :( .


imi pare rau berta....si de candida si de costul ovuleleor...din pacate stiu ce inseamna sa faci tratament cu ovule, care numai unul singur costa 278.000 ( 9 luni tratament  :o)....

iar giardia, am inteles ca la un sugar atat de mic (10 luni) e cam exclus.....apoi, kisr daca ar avea, pana la varsta de 2 ani mare lucru nu are ce-i face, pentru ca medicamentele recomandate la giardia nu sunt compatibile cu varsta.apoi, bebelul meu nu merge, nu umbla in noroi sau balti, este crescut intr-un mediu nu steril dau categoric igienic, iar medicul m-a sfatuit sa stau linistita deocamdata...vom investiga problema eventual mai tarziu....
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post Jan 26 2006, 02:47 PM
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Xela...esti o mina de aur...kiar mai devreme, in timp ce-i pregateam masa lui bebe ma gandeam daca nu cumva iminitatea poate fi verificata...si uite ca se poate....

la mine vitele astea de streptococi si stafilo (mama ce lungi sunte termenii, de parca as juca "spanzatutoarea" :-X...)nu au aparut din cauza antibioticelor, pentru ca as putea numara pe degete de cate ori am luat antibiotic, adica de 2 ori in tota viata :o....si totusi imunitatea clar este cumva afectata, altfel nu ar gasi ei teren sa se implanteze in mine, no?

pentru a stimula imunitatea, produsele astea naturiste (capsule) sunt intr-adevar eficiente sau sunt mai indicate usturoiul si tot felul de ceaiuri?eu de felul meu, culmea....sunt rezistenta la racelik adica racesc o data la 2-3 ani, nu am la activi boli sau mai stiu eu ce...analizele de sange sunt ok, eco la fel...bai, io's beton dpdv medical, dar sunt unele lucruri care ma deranjeaza in ciuda medicinei (bila care nu poate fi dovedita la echo nush de ce...ei cica's ok, dar eu stiu k nu's....dureri de cap...deh...cica bolile omului modern...adica cu late cuvinte sunt si ipohondra  :-X)

hmmm...sa vedem daca la Cantacuzino imi pot face o imunograma si cred k tot acolo imi voi face si analiza secretiei si antibiograma.....

voi da un search si dupa Bioclinica, sa vedem ce gasesc...
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post Jan 26 2006, 05:00 PM
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mersi elle_ni  :P

eu la fel...habar nu aveam ca se poate masura imunitatea si tantalaii de genecologi pe care ii intrebam au zis ca ei nu stiu de asemenea teste, asa ca am intrebat eu cu tupeu la Bioclinica si asa am aflat:)

daca la tine nu au fost antibioticele atunci nush...cu strepto aia disperanti...ceteste si tu pe net:) daca ai chef ca eu una is cam satula de cautat pe net boli:P

Pentru imunitate ar trebui sa faci niste chestii relativ simple, dar in acelasi timp foarte complicate: sa dormi destul (din cate am inteles o noapte nedormita afecteaza organismul 3 sapt sau atata ii ia sa se refaca), sa incerci sa reduci sau sa elimini stresul, sa faci un pic de sport, sa incerci sa nu bagi prea multe medicamente in tine + ai putea sa iei si imunostimulatoare.

Imunostimulatoarele ara fi bine si ele sa ti le prescrie un doctor. Mie mi-a prescris unu Imunosipronsine (ceva de genu e numele) si vreau sa zic ca era sa fac infarct la Sensiblue(ca cica numa acolo se gasesc) cand mi-a zis aia ca doza pentru o luna e 330 RON. Le-am luat ce puteam sa fac?!...nu stiu ce efect au avut fiindca de abia de curand mi-am facut prima imunograma care a iesit aproape ok.

In privinta pretului ovulelor eu de fiecare data am dat intre 70 si 100 RON pe ovule + crema(sau pastile)...niciodata mai mult, iar tratamentul era de 10 zile(deci 10 ovule)....Ah...da...imi amintesc ca unu mi-a dat o data numai 3 ovule(fiecare era in cutia lui si costa 170 de mii una), dar ciuciu....ca n-au facut nimic alea...

da...si pe mine ma dispera ca nu se poate dovedi una sau alta...Dar nah..nu poti afla singura...Caci la un mom chiar ma batea gandul, nervoasa pe incompetenta doctorilor "specialisti" pe care ii lauda lumea si mie nu-mi pot raspunde la intrebari sau raspund cu "imi pare rau, nu stiu sa iti raspund la aceasta intrebare"; imi venise idea sa ma apuc de medicina si sa imi gasesc eu singura baiurile si tot:>>> Desigur ca a fost o exagerare la nervi....Dar inca mi-e ciuda ca inca practica o gramada de incompetenti...si din cauza lor poti ajunge la niste chestii care dureaza ani de zile sa le rezolvi sau poate niciodata fie din cauza ca nu i-au acordat destula atentie sau fie ca pur si simplu n-au stiut.

Gata ma opresc ca iara ma enervez pe sistemul asta medical....Chiar asa....mi se iau o tona de bani din salariu pt CAS, minuni, bani pe care eu nu ii simt, pt ca ajung doar pe la particulari, care nu fac nici un fel de reduceri.
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post Jan 26 2006, 05:01 PM
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din cate am inteles eu candida este o ciuperca pe care o avem toti: in gura, stomac, vagin ... undeva, la unii poate face mizerii la altii nu. Iar de zahar intredevar uitasem..... la regimul de 3 saptamani scoate zaharul complet din alimentatie.... eucand am tinut regimul asta, cu toate ca mancam normal am slabit vreo 3kg ceea ce mi-a cazut bine (nu c-as avea probleme);

daca ai un medic bun intreba-l despre analize pt toata familia ....


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Streptococcus
Related concepts:
Strep, Group A strep, Group B strep, Flesh-eating strep
Introduction:
These tiny bacteria look like a harmless string of pearls--at least under a microscope. In people, they wear many faces: mild discomfort, minor inconvenience, or searing tragedy.

Strep bacteria are easily killed by common antibiotics if the illness is identified and treated in time.

What is it?
There are hundreds of strains of streptococcus bacteria. The most important causes of infection belong to either Group A or Group B. Group A beta-hemolytic streptococci (called "beta strep" by many parents) are among the most common disease-causing bacteria found in children and can cause an astonishing variety of diseases. Although very sensitive to appropriate antibiotic therapy, if treatment is delayed or absent, very serious illness and even death can result.

The seriousness of the infection depends on the underlying health of the child, the amount of bacteria involved, the location of the infection, and the virulence of the particular strain causing the infection. More than 100 different types of Group A beta strep have been identified.

Group B streptococcus is a major cause of infections in newborns. The spectrum of the disease in newborns is quite broad, ranging from mild, asymptomatic infections all the way to neonatal death. (It frequently causes pneumonia.) The overall mortality rate is 10 to 20 percent. The most serious cases generally occur in premature infants, babies born to actively sick mothers, and babies who are not diagnosed and do not receive early antibiotic treatment. A pregnant woman can save her baby from illness or even death by finding out whether she's carrying Group B strep, and being treated if she is.

Who gets it?
Virtually everyone gets minor Group A strep infections.

The prevalence of severe Group A strep has waxed and waned over the years. In the past, scarlet fever was a terrible scourge. The 1980s saw a resurgence of strep-induced rheumatic fever. During the 1990s there has was a rise of severe invasive Group A strep.

Group B strep, a common inhabitant of birth canals, is present in about 20 percent (perhaps as many as 40 percent) of pregnant women. At least 98 percent of the babies born to carriers will not get Group B strep disease!

Still, somewhere between 0.5 and 2 percent of all the babies born to carriers will be affected. Several factors greatly influence the likelihood of your child being in this smaller group. Group B strep is eight times more common in premature babies than in babies born at term. Also, as one might guess, the length of time between when the bag of water breaks and when the baby is born is an important factor. If the membranes are ruptured less than 19 hours, Group B strep is very uncommon. It is more than 25 times more common when the membranes have been ruptured for 30 hours. Newborn disease is also more common if Mom is very ill, with a high fever, a tender uterus, and a high white blood cell count.

What are the symptoms?
Common Group A strep infections include those in the upper respiratory tract (often strep throat); scarlet fever (which includes skin involvement and can be very mild or extremely serious); strep pneumonia (which can also be quite serious--and is what is reported to have killed Muppets creator Jim Henson); strep skin infections (such as impetigo); strep vaginitis in prepubertal girls; and strep bacteremia (or strep in the bloodstream), which can then lead to meningitis, brain abscess, bone infections, joint infections, or even endocarditis (an infection of the valves of the heart). One type of strep is the most common bacteria that causes ear infections. Severe, invasive Group A strep (flesh-eating strep) is quite rare, but is the most feared.

Group B strep might be suspected because of temperature instability (too high or too low), poor feeding, lethargy, or difficulty feeding.
Is it contagious?
Strep is contagious until antibiotic therapy has been in place for at least 24 hours. It is spread by close contact, both via the airborne route and by touch.

How long does it last?
The length depends on the type and location of the infection. It varies widely.

Most Group A streptococcal infections are of short duration and relatively mild, but sometimes they are rapidly progressing, even life-threatening infections.

How is it diagnosed?
The presence of strep can be confirmed with a sample from the site of the infection or from a blood test.

How is it treated?
Strep can cause devastating infections, but if treated early it is uniformly sensitive to antibiotics such as the penicillins.

How can it be prevented?
Some types of strep can be prevented by vaccine.

Group A strep can sometimes be prevented by avoiding direct contact with those who have it.

Newborn infection with Group B strep can often be prevented. It is now common practice to treat high-risk carriers with ampicillin during labor. High-risk carriers are those who have had a previous infant with Group B strep disease, have Group B strep in the urine, are in premature labor, have rupture of membranes longer than 17 hours, or are ill during labor. Pretreatment with ampicillin prevents many cases of Group B strep and makes the remaining cases much less severe.
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