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post Dec 10 2005, 03:08 PM
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Disclaimer: Tot ce voi scrie reprezinta pareri personale, si nu pot fi luate decat ca atare de eventualii cititori :)
Second Disclaimer: Este absolut NERECOMANDAT sa cititi Tolkien tradus in romaneste. Fiind profesor de engleza, a folosit in scrierile lui niste constructii absolut remarcabile, netraduse in romana, de aici si scaderea valorii literare a traducerilor.

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John Ronald Reuel Tolkien (1892-1973) was a major scholar of the English language, specialising in Old and Middle English. Twice Professor of Anglo-Saxon (Old English) at the University of Oxford, he also wrote a number of stories, including most famously The Hobbit (1937) and The Lord of the Rings (1954-1955), which are set in a pre-historic era in an invented version of the world which he called by the Middle English name of Middle-earth. This was peopled by Men (and women), Elves, Dwarves, Trolls, Orcs (or Goblins) and of course Hobbits. He has regularly been condemned by the Eng. Lit. establishment, with honourable exceptions, but loved by literally millions of readers worldwide.

In the 1960s he was taken up by many members of the nascent "counter-culture" largely because of his concern with environmental issues. In 1997 he came top of three British polls, organised respectively by Channel 4 / Waterstone's, the Folio Society, and SFX, the UK's leading science fiction media magazine, amongst discerning readers asked to vote for the greatest book of the 20th century. Please note also that his name is spelt Tolkien (there is no "Tolkein").
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Tolkien a fost dintotdeauna fascinat de mitologie, in special mitologia nordica. A studiat multe texte de specialitate, dar, ce l-a determinat sa conceapa o intreaga lume in cel mai mic detaliu se crede ca a fost o simpla fraza citita de el:
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Eálá Earendel engla beorhtast, Ofer middangeard monnum sended
"Hail Earendel brightest of angels, over Middle Earth sent to men"


Earendil este unul din personajele cheie ale Silmarillionului, fiind cel care reuseste reconcilierea intre Elves and Men, si intre acestia si Valinor. Middle Earth, denumit identic si in scrierile lui Tolkien este o veche expresie care indica "Land Between Heaven Above and Hell Below"

Ce adauga magie, autenticitate si originalitate scrierilor lui Tolkien este inventarea de limbaje specifice pentru fiecare rasa care populeaza universul. Remarcabila este "elfeasca" Tolkieniana, inspirata din limba finlandeza.

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A Elbereth Gilthoniel o menel palan-diriel, le nallon
sí di-nguruthos! A tiro nin, Fanuilos!
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"O Elbereth Starkindler from firmanent gazing afar, to thee I cry
here beneath death-horror! O look towards me, Everwhite!

(Elbereth: Zeita Noptii, Varda Elentari, principala zeitate a elfilor, care in momentul trezirii lor  in Middle Earth nu au cunoscut soarele ci doar cerul noptii, de aici veneratia lor pentru acest personaj)

Desi Lord of the Rings este scrierea populara a lui Tolkien, aproape toata lumea vazand ecranizarea, de altfel remarcabila a acestei carti, Silmarillion este scrierea lui cea mai reusita, putand fi considerata ca o biblie a Middle Earth, continand aproape toate momentele cunoscute ale Bibliei reale

Creatia: The world was created from the music of the Divinity
Decaderea lui Lucifer: Morgoth a fost a doua zeitate ca magnitudine in universul Tolkien, ca si Lucifer mandria si aroganta aducandu-i exilul din Undying Lands
Pacatul originar si izgonirea din rai: Aparitia lacomiei si arogantei, omorarea intre frati, izgonirea din Undying Lands a unui intreg popor (elfii lui Feanor).

Middle Earth a cunoscut trei ere, fiecare din ele terminandu-se odata cu un eveniment de amploare universala, care a afectat intreg pamantul. Prima era se termina cu infrangerea lui Morgoth, aka Melkor, inamicul universal, si izgonirea lui dincolo de Walls of Night, care erau granita Middle Earth cu The Eternal Void. A doua se termina odata cu prima infrangere a lui Sauron si separarea Valinorului de Middle Earth si a treia, ilustrata in carte si film cu Distrugerea lui Sauron.

As putea sa scriu pagini intregi despre acest subiect, dar ma voi limita sa va recomand sa cititi ambele carti, de preferabil in limba engleza, si sa va faceti singuri o parere despre acest autor, care, in opinia mea personala a creat una din cele mai fascinante scrieri ever in istoria literaturii universale ;)
O sa mai adaug niste termeni remarcabili din carti, si daca aveti comentarii, let's talk about it :D
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post Dec 10 2005, 07:36 PM
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Eu am vazut doar filmele..as fi vrut si cartile  :(
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post Dec 10 2005, 11:36 PM
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blondina, filmele sunt spectaculoase, dar nu sunt decat o transpunere sumara a cartii, din care este extrasa doar partea de "action", din pacate
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post Dec 10 2005, 11:42 PM
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nu stii cumva de unde as putea face rost de carti?
Daca le ai tu poti sa mi le trimiti in mail?
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post Dec 10 2005, 11:48 PM
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nu stiu daca le mai am in format electronic, pentru ca le am tiparite, dar daca vrei o sa le caut si o sa ti le trimit, desi eu personal nu am reusit niciodata sa citesc o carte in format electronic. Too lazy :P
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post Dec 10 2005, 11:58 PM
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blondino .... vezi ca sunt pe venusyana .... am sa merg sa caut link-ul
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post Dec 11 2005, 12:08 AM
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Ok..ma uit acum. Ms  :-*
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post Dec 11 2005, 12:13 AM
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era un site unde erau carti cu zecile dar nu mai fuctioneaza  :'(


unde zici ca ai adresa de email ca am eu primele 2 volume si ti le trimit cu placere
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post Dec 11 2005, 12:40 AM
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Ti-am trimis mailul meu  :) Merci mult  :-*
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post Dec 11 2005, 10:08 PM
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le-ai primit??
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