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[mango]

Mango, Skinorenul sau orice alta crema nu are cum sa iti trateze cauza hormonala. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) E naiv sa crezi asta, desi stiu ca de multe ori tindem sa ne agatam de orice solutie, in general..Ai fost la un endocrinolog?

Sweet, si mie mi s-a parut ciudat si pana acum nici nu am considerat Skinorenul in tratarea acneei hormonale...insa stiu sigur ca am citit pe undeva ca acidul azelaic inhiba nush ce enzima iar asta determina o reducere a nivelului de testosteron...in plus vad ca pe aici medicii il prescriu ca tratament local in acneea hormonala alaturi de anticonceptionale.
La endocrinolog nu am fost inca dar cred ca voi merge, din proprie initiativa bineinteles (am intrebat si medicul de familie si dermatologul si mi-au raspuns ca nu e necesar (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nusepoate.gif) ) dar vreau sa fac mai intai o ecografie a ovarelor.

This post has been edited by mango: Sep 10 2008, 06:11 PM

[mango]

Revin cu ceva info. Asadar dupa ce am "Gugalit" nitel, am aflat ca enzima cu pricina se numeste 5 alfa reductaza si metabolizeaza testosteronul intr-un androgen mai puternic numit dihidrotestosteron (DHT), in concluzie se pare ca exista o legatura stransa intre acest DHt si aparitia acneei.
O sa postez si un articol -sper ca am voie- unde e mentionat acidul azelaic.

Subject: Acne Treatment by inhibiting 5-Alpha Reductase Enzyme
Asked by: johnsmithsonian-ga

I was recently told by my doctor that a high protein diet (ie. Tuna,
Milk, etc.) could reduce my acne because it helps inhibit the 5-alpha
reductase enzyme which converts testosterone to the potent and harmful
DHT. I tried the diet and it worked GREAT!!! Now I'm wondering what
are all of the ways I can inhibit this enzyme and which work best at
inhibition. Ie.
Certain foods, low-cost medications, herbal remedies, etc. I've heard
great things about your service from friends and I look forward to
your research! Thanks.


Hi johnsmithsonian!
Thank you for choosing Google Answers!
I have found quite a lot of information which i hope you'll find
useful. I've selected the most relevant segments from various sites
and have included links below each one, in case you wish to read the
whole article.
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"Acne diet tip: By maintaining a higher intake of protein in relation
to carbohydrates you reduce the activity of 5 alpha reductase and thus
the formation of the more potent DHT. Avoid consuming carbohydrates
which total more than 60 to 70% of your diet and keep your protein
intake about 40 to 45%.
Since I gear most of my diet towards vegetarian, I avoid meat. They
can contain hormones, pesticides, residual antibiotics and saturated
fat. The best source of protein is from whey. Whey protein powders are
a superior form of protein which require minimal digestion and
depending on how it was manufactured, contains low fat and minimal
lactose plus other ingredients beneficial to health..."
(paragraph 4/5)
http://www.acne-rx-skincare.com/acne-diet.html
Click here for Malty Whey Protein Powder:
http://www.internationalvitaminpower.com/P...s/MaltyWhey.htm
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"There are two ways to prevent the negative effects of
dihydrotestosterone on your body. Either you have to inhibit the
activity of 5-alpha reductase or you have to increase the breakdown of
dihydrotestosterone via your liver.
Those nutrients that reduce the activity of 5-alpha reductase include
zinc, soy, flaxseed, pumpkin seed and evening primrose oil. Diets high
in saturated fat such as meat, milk and butter increase 5-alpha
reductase.
To enhance the detoxification capability of your liver, thereby
reducing dihydrotestosterone a diet high in garlic, broccoli, cabbage
and cauliflower would be beneficial.
Consuming lots of berry fruits such as strawberries and blackberries,
as well as taking supplements of the vitamins A, C and E and the herb
St Mary’s thistle (Silybum marianum) would further augment liver
function."
http://www.eternalhealth.org/womens_health/acne.htm
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"EMU OIL - Research has shown that emu oil contains a high level of
linolenic acid which further research has shown to be an efficient
antiandrogen. Linolenic acid is a potent 5 alpha reductase inhibitor
and may be useful in the treatment of disorders related to the hormone
Dihydrotestosterone. Linolenic Acid has been suggested to be of use in
the disorders such as benign prostratic hyperplasma, acne androgenic
alopecia and hirsuitism..."
[...]
"ZINC - Zinc has been shown to be a beneficial vitamin in the
treatment of both Alopecia Areata and Androgenic Alopecia. Oral zinc
has been shown to be of benefit in Alopecia areata and seems to have
an immunomodulatory effect.There have been studies in which zinc is
shown to inhibit 5 alpha reductase activity, and it is therefor
concluded that zinc is beneficial in diseases and disorders related to
an excess in dihydrotestosterone (DHT)
such as Androgenetic Alopecia, Benign Prostratic Hyperplasma and acne.
There have been studies that have shown that vitamin b6, zinc and
azelaic acid combined together, even at very low concentrations caused
a 90% inhibition of 5 alpha reductase activity. Zinc is a vitamin that
is used in other disorders related to excess dihydrotestosterone, such
as acne and prostratic disease. One may be likely to assume that as it
is of benefit in treating these types of androgen dependent conditions
then it may be of some benefit in the treatment of androgenetic
alopecia. Topical application of zinc has shown to reduce sebum
production and acne. Also some people suffering from acne have been
found to have zinc deficiencies in their skin, despite of the fact
that they may have normal levels within their bloodstream..."
([LifestylesNews] Lifestyles Newsletter, 02/2002 Vol. 2, Issue 2)
http://www.pcolist.org/pipermail/lifestyle...ary/000042.html

This post has been edited by mango: Sep 10 2008, 05:55 PM

[luluta]

Sweet, tenul meu e foarte gras de felul lui, deci asta sunt pretty ok pentru mine ( mai ales gelul ). Ca si hidratare mi-a spus sa ma indrept spre o crema necomedogena si hidratanta, dupa preferinte.

Asa ziceam si eu, ca prefer sa-mi fie uscata fata in loc sa-mi arate ca farul din Alexandria, dar dupa niste tratamente din astea mai agresive mi s-a uscat atat de mult ca am ajuns sa folosesc creme pentru ten foarte foarte uscat.

Acum parca isi mai revine, dar vara asta m-a "strans" de numa'.

[Andu19]

mango , faza cu testosteronul din cauza lui e secretia de sebum , din ce scrie acolo nu cred ca te va ajuta din alimentatie , cel mai bine te duci si iti faci toate analizele sa vezi de la ce e , cauzele pot fi din mai multe probleme. ( testosteronul e secretat mai mult de barbati , si femeile au dar in cantitate foarte mica ).
roaccutane : regleaza glandele sebacee adica sebumu.

am omis sa adaug faza cu vitaminele e adevarata te ajuta doar la o medie almeiorare dar nu si o vindecare ( am luat si yo vitamine ma ajutat scurt timp dar au reaparut)

[Florina]

Am nevoie de un sfat ca nu stiu ce sa mai fac. Deci mi-au aparut cosuri din alea mici nedureroase dar rosii un fel de acnee solara eu folosesc boreade12 si cateodata izotrexin gel dar simt ca ar trebui ceva antiinflamator mai puternic sa treaca mai repede ceva gen Zineryt sau Brevoxyl sau alceva .... ce imi recomandati

[mango]

mango , faza cu testosteronul din cauza lui e secretia de sebum , din ce scrie acolo nu cred ca te va ajuta din alimentatie , cel mai bine te duci si iti faci toate analizele sa vezi de la ce e , cauzele pot fi din mai multe probleme. ( testosteronul e secretat mai mult de barbati , si femeile au dar in cantitate foarte mica ).
roaccutane : regleaza glandele sebacee adica sebumu.

am omis sa adaug faza cu vitaminele e adevarata te ajuta doar la o medie almeiorare dar nu si o vindecare ( am luat si yo vitamine ma ajutat scurt timp dar au reaparut)

Daca ai citit cu atentie, era vorba despre acidul azelaic, dar pentru ca mi s-au parut interesante si informatiile cu privire la dieta, vitamine, etc. m-am gandit sa postez tot articolul.
Cum am mai zis, ceva analize am facut si a iesit valoarea testosteronului cam mare, dar cand m-am prezentat la medic mi s-a spus ca nu e vorba de vreo dereglare hormonala, ci mai degraba chisturi ovariene, urmeaza sa fac o ecografie. Deja mi s-au propus anticonceptionalele si le-am refuzat din start.
Nu sunt totusi un caz chiar atat de grav sau disperat, numai ca as vrea sa scap de cosurile astea si sa revin la tenul curat de dinainte. Roaccutanul nici nu intra in discutie...problemele mele sunt localizate in zona barbiei si pana acum le-am tratat cu solutii pe baza de antibiotic.



Florina, eu am folosit Zinerytul si mi-a ajutat foarte mult insa dupa un timp nu a mai dat rezultate (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . Si eu sunt in cautare unei solutii la fel de eficiente ca Zinerytul si am inteles ca rezultate foarte bune dau si cremele pe baza de clindamicina.

This post has been edited by mango: Sep 11 2008, 01:16 PM

[Florina]

poi cica brevoxylul e cam aceasi poveste cu zinerytul poate da ala rezultate la tine (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

[Pastelata]

Nu e acelasi lucru. Zineryt contine zinc si eritromicina, iar brevoxyl e pe baza pe benzoil peroxid(4%)

[Florina]

aham daca tu zici asa o fi eu nu stiu cum ii brevoxylul ca nu am folosit dar am auzit ca rezultate da

[mango]

Florina, eu am folosit si Brevoxyl dar nu mi-a placut deloc, mi-au iesit o multime de cosuri de la el si in afara de asta usca foarte tare tenul.
Intentionam sa achizitionez Duac gel pe baza de clindamicina si benzoil peroxid, dar cred ca ma voi limita la un tratament doar pe baza de clindamicina ca benzoil peroxid e prea agrasiv, cel putin in cazul meu.