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sorin
Topic deschis iubitorilor de papagali ce au nevoie de mai multe cunostinte.

Cu mare placere am sa impart cu voi experienta de ani de zile in cresterea acestor superbe fiinte...intrebati si am sa incerc sa va ajut cu sfaturi pe care nu le primiti nicaieri :)

Sorin.
Tsunami
ce te-a facut sa cumperi papagali? ce te-a atras la ei?
as fi curios de asemenea la diferentele dintre papali si catei. iti dai seama la ce ma refer, afectiune, inteligenta, personalitate si numarul de aripi

mersi
berbecutza
Sorin, thank god!!!! am cateva intrebari legate de "ghemotoacele de puf"  :)
In primul rand ma ingrijoreaza cel din dreapta, nu prea arata bine narile lui. Daca te uiti cu atentie la poza o sa vezi ca sunt un pic cam mari si parca ar sta sa cada  :o...nu stiu de la ce ar putea sa fie (asa e normal sa le aiba, avand in vedere ca e mai batran decat al meu?  ??? )

Si a doua intrebare.....hehe...o sa te surprinda... nu stiu care e fata care e baiat  :fluierat: eu am cerut baietel si sora mea la fel, dar coloritul picioruselor e diferit.... al meu le are inchise la culoare, al ei le are roz si am inteles ca prin asta se deosebesc .... asa e?

mersi  ;)
berbecutza
Tsunami... de ce sa comparam cateii cu perusii??  ???
berbecutza
Multumesc Sorin  :fluierat:
albinuza
daaa am vazut eu perus care vorbeste..super frumos!!! m-am bucurat o saptamana  :D ca un copil tembel ca eu nu stiam ca si astia pot vorbi. dar sa sti ca am vazut si caini care chiputile vorbesc. adica imita anumite sunete...cuvinte.... :-*
berbecutza
Mersi mult Sorin, desi eu eram sigura ca al meu e femela (nu tace de dimineata pana seara si il cearta pe celalalt - exact cum ar face o femeie  :fluierat: - iar cel al sora-mii nici nu il baga in seama (o situatie gen : femeia taca-taca... si barbatul o ignora si citeste ziarul  :hohote: ). Asta al sora-mii parca e prea linistit, sau poate mi se pare mie fiindca al meu e tot timpul agitat (e ceva de speriat, se da peste cap, urla, sare de colo colo, a ros leaganul  :o, il bate pe celalalt, isi rupe penele, sta cu capul in jos mai tot timpul...zici ca-i liliac nu perus  :o...)

O sa pun o poza mai clara cu celalalt sa imi spui daca e cazul sa ma ingrijorez. Mersi inca o data  ;)
berbecutza
Activ e putin spus si i-am cumparat o scarita cu oglinda si bilute pe care le mai "numara" din cand in cand  :) i-am pus un clopotel pe care il zangane mereu.... sa vad ce ii mai cumpar ca m-a tampit cu atata energie... :o macar cand are jucarii mai tace (are un piuit mama mama  :-X). Eu le mai pun in mancare (kiri kiri) si niste mei cu vitamine (desi cred ca ar trebui sa ii tai portia de vit la al meu  :hohote:)



nu stiu cat de clara e poza..nu prea sta si ciupeste rau  :-X

:craciunf:
bertha
Si Coco al meu vorbeste! "pupa mama pui!', "ubeste mama baiat!", "ce-i mamica?", "Coco", "Coci" (se alinta). Eu le dau drumul din colivie in fiecare zi, asa i-am obisnuit si fac ca toate alea daca ii tin inchisi. Fetita am luat-o in vara, dar e mai salbatica, mai e si geloasa daca vine Coco sa vorbeasca sau sa se alinte. Vine repede si-l alunga  :). Desi am cerut fata, iar acum cateva luni avea narile deschise la culoare, acum i s-au inchis, le au aproape la fel amandoi  :-X. Deci, cred ca am 2 baieti. Degeaba le-am luat eu cuibusor de nebunii, ca nici de curiozitate nu intra acolo.
no_ua
eu am un papagal cam mosulica  ::)
e un perus care are cam 13-14 ani.
cand l-am primit nu era pui si e vaduv de cativa ani.
ciugule pe toata lumea si in general este f. uricios.

am avut si un papagal politician care nu accepta anumiti lideri politici prin 1996 si caraia pana inchideam sonorul la tv. :fluierat:
berbecutza
:hohote: si al sora-mii e foarte uracios si ciupesteeeeeeeeeee  :o eu nu mai pun mana pe el
:-X
Meg
cum se cresc? e vreo regula ceva? le dai mancare acolo.. le faci curat.. vorbesti cu ei.. si gata!  :hainoroc:

cainele trebuie plimbat, spalat, pieptanat..  :P
Meg
Buna :)
nu am de unde sa stiu pentru ca eu iubesc pisicile...  :inloove: pana acum nu am avut nici un alt animalut.

:-*
Meg
sunt deschisa la nou :D


:-*
alinuta-draguta
eu am perusi am cam vreo trei ani de cand ii am... baiatul este vrede iar fata este albastra cu guler alb...au trei saptamani de cand au oua dar puii pauzaa ...imi puteti da vreo explicatieee..... nu pot sa imi dau seama oare nu sunt bune ouale..ei sunt foarte simpatici amandoii baiatul insa musca dar fetita este asa de simpatica bine insa nu pot spune ca baiatul nu este simpatic indragostita.gif

am avut si pisici si canii si nu pot uita atunci cand pisicuta mea alba era sa se inecee bineinteles era alba cu ochiisori albastrii foarte frumoasa sau cand negrutul pisoiasul ,,negrutul,, fiind alintul lui era sa ia focc caci intr-o clipa de neatentie s-a urcat pe aragazz care era deschis am mai avut un birmanez foarte frumos dar am fos nevoita sa il dau la bunicii si s-a pierdut inca nu il pot uita era asa torcaitorr si iubaret incat il iubeai din prima clipa...si am avut si o pechineza mica iubareata pe care o chema dulceata caci cu acest nume am cumparat-o daca o sa fac rost de poze o va arat aceste mici vietati inasa am avut multe multe animalee dar acum nu mai am caci parintii spun ca lasa prae mult par si nu pot caci profesorii ne dau tem si nu am timp sa ingrijesc..dar in fine nu v-am povestit ca mica piscuta alba a avut 5 puiuti foarte frumosiii indragostita.gif iloveelady.gif
kalua
alinuta_draguta, bine ai venit pe elady!

Te rog sa folosesti zambaretii moderat, crezi cumva ca lumea aici are orbul gainilor (daca tot suntem la topic de animale laugh.gif ) si nu-i vede daca-i pui normal?
Multumesc. smile.gif
Eclypse
Eu am un perus albastru si e mascul( are numai trei luni) ,i-am cumparat tot felul de jucarii dar nici nu s-a atins de ele crying.gif , am spus ca ii mai iau o singura jucarie ,m-am dus la magazin si nu mai erau jucarii decat un model (un plastic si de el agatati clopotei colorati) nu mi s-a parut cine stie ce dar am luat-o. Acum nu mai doarme toata ziua in colivie ci se joaca cu clopoteii. Ce ii place la jucaria aia nu stiu magindesc.gif . S-a luat si vopseaua de pe clopotei si daca as lua jucaria din colivie cred ca ar muri de inima rea. Astazi m-am gandit ca are nevoie de companie closedeyes.gif .m-am dus la magazin crezand ca sunt o gramada de perusi dar cand am intrat pe usa... trei perusi urati si zgribuliti....am crezut ca inebunesc deoarece era singurul magazin de animale si numai in piata mai erau perusi si e tare departe, si am mers pe jos, incetul cu incetul cand deodata vad piata (mi se citea bucuria pe fata biggrin.gif). M-am uitat la colivii lung si bine cand deodata vad un perus galban ca lamaia . I-am spus vanzatorului sa mi-l arate si sa spuna ce e (vroiam neaparat femela). S-a uitat la el cam un minut si a spus ca e femela dar are nasul un mov foarte deschis spre roz. Eu stiam ca masculii au nasul colorat iar femelele cafeniu deschis dar vanzatorul a spus ca e pui si in timp o sa-si schimbe culoarea. Eu nu prea am incredere in vorbele lui ,voi ce credeti??? magindesc.gif
Diana.
Nu am nici cea mai vaga idee, insa asta nu ma impiedica sa iti urez welcome.gif la noi, Eclypse, seredere placuta si la citi mai multi prieteni noi! floricele.gif
divi2007
waw mici nu stiam de topicul asta, ma bucur mult pt ca eu am perusi de vreo 10 ani smile.gif

eclypse eu perusul ce il am acum l am cumparat tot la 3 luni si era mov spre albastru la cioc la fel ca si acum,
fetitele trebuie sa fie maro

eu zic ca e baiat papagalul acela galben vanzatorul a mintit pt ca, culoarea e aceiasi de cand se nasc am avut si fetite si erau maro

sa stii ca ei se ataseaza f tare de unele lucruri uite al meu are o clema de de par care daca o iau de pe colivie nu ma lasa pt ca s a atasat de ea si apoi se intristeaza

pune i o oglinda in colivie, culoarea galbena e preferata lor al meu e innebunit si dupa telefoane si telecomanda

sa stii ca papagalii pot vedea lumina fosforescenta si ziua nu doar noaptea iar chestia asta ii ajuta la alegerea partenerei pt ca ei au colorit galben la gat

eu il tin liber prin casa pt ca e pacat sa nu zboare , sau macar zilnic lasa l cateva ore liber sa vezi ce fericit va fi

o pasare trebuie tinuta liber nu inchisa pt ca are aripi smile.gif
Kirios

Sorin, ce boli pot transmite papagalii perusi la oameni ?





Diana.
Nu numai papagalii pot transmite boli oamenilor, ci orice pasare sau alt animal de companie care nu este ingrijit cum trebuie.
Boli ale pasarilor cu transmitere la oameni:
Bird-keepers (pet bird owners and poultry producers) should be
aware that some avian diseases can be transmitted to humans. It
is important to note, however, that such diseases are uncommon
enough that they should not discourage bird-keeping. For most
people avian diseases do not pose a serious threat, but
bird-keepers should be aware of them and seek medical assistance
if necessary.

Zoonoses refer to infectious animal diseases that are
communicable to humans. The infectious agents can be protozoal,
fungal, bacterial, chlamydial or viral. Individual susceptibility
and the seriousness of these various microbial infections varies
with age, health status, immune status (immunodeficient or
immunosuppressed), and whether early therapeutic intervention is
sought. The ability of a microorganism to make a person sick
varies with the virulence of the organism, the dose to which the
person is exposed, as well as route of infection.

Chlamydiosis, salmonellosis, arizonosis, and colibacillosis are
the most common of these infections. Chlamydiosis, salmonellosis,
eastern equine encephalitis and avian tuberculosis may be serious
and even life- threatening.


Chlamydiosis
Chlamydia psittaci , an unusual bacteria-like organism, occurs
worldwide and affects more than 100 avian species. It causes a
disease called psittacosis or parrot fever when it occurs in
psittacine birds (curve-beaked, like parrots, parakeets, etc.)and
the disease is called ornithosis when diagnosed in all other
birds or in humans.

In the U.S., chlamydiosis is a major problem with turkeys,
pigeons, and psittacines. In Europe, the main avian species
affected are ducks and geese. Some birds (turkeys) are extremely
susceptible to chlamydiosis, while others (chickens) are more
resistant.

Chlamydiosis is primarily transmitted by inhalation of
contaminated fecal dust and is spread by carrier birds, which act
as the main reservoirs for the disease. The organism is excreted
in both the feces and nasal secretions. Shedding is sporadic and
is usually induced by stress. A carrier state can persist for
years. The organism survives drying, which facilitates oral
spread and allows transmission on contaminated clothing and
equipment. Chlamydiosis can be transmitted bird to bird, feces to
bird, and bird to human. Human to human transmission can occur,
mainly by exposure to patient's saliva.

Chlamydiosis is an occupational hazard for persons working with
psittacines (parrots, parakeets, etc.) and pigeons, or for people
working in turkey slaughter plants and avian diagnostic
laboratories.

The incubation period for chlamydiosis is 4-15 days, although 10
days is most common. In affected birds, diarrhea, coughing, and
ocular and nasal discharges are common signs. There may be a high
mortality rate if the disease is unrecognized or untreated. With
turkeys there is a drop in egg production. In humans,
chlamydiosis manifests itself as a feverish respiratory disease.
There is usually a sudden onset with chills, muscle and joint
pains, headache, cough, loss of appetite, and chest pains.
Complications may result from an enlarged spleen, inflammation of
the heart muscle, and a reduced heart rate.

Affected birds must be treated with chlortetracycline or other
similar broad-spectrum antibiotics for up to 45 days to clear the
infection. Pigeons and turkeys may require long- term flock
therapy to eliminate carriers.

Affected humans are treated with tetracycline for at least 21
days. Because this antibiotic may become irreversibly bound to
certain minerals, the calcium content of food needs to be kept
low during treatment.

In Florida, chlamydiosis is a reportable zoonotic disease for
both health and livestock officials. The Department of
Agriculture and Consumer Services must be notified of any birds
found to be infected with Chlamydia psittaci . If a person is
suspected of having ornithosis, the county public health office
must be notified within 48 hours.


Salmonellosis
There are approximately 200 different serotypes of Salmonella
species. Most animals are susceptible to salmonella infection.
This bacterial disease occurs most frequently in stressed
individuals. Many infections are subclinical. Common clinical
symptoms in all species include diarrhea, vomiting, and a
low-grade fever. Infections -can progress to dehydration,
weakness, and sometimes, especially in the very young or very
old, death. In severe cases there can be a high fever, septicemia
(blood poisoning), headaches, and an enlarged painful spleen.
Focal infections may occur in any organ, including heart, kidney,
joints, meninges (membranes which surround and protect the brain
and spinal cord), and the periosteum (fibrous membrane of
connective tissue which closely surrounds all bones except at the
joints).

The incubation period is 6-72 hours, although 12-36 hours is most
common. Salmonella are transmitted by ingestion of food
contaminated by fecal matter (fecal-oral route). Excretion of the
bacteria commonly varies from a few days to weeks. In some
instances (e.g., S. typhi, typhoid fever) infected persons can
shed bacteria for life. S. enteriditis in avian fecal material is
able to penetrate eggshells, and may be present in uncooked eggs.

In most cases, treatment of salmonellosis simply involves
treatment of the symptoms with fluids and electrolytes.
Antibiotics such as chloramphenicol, nitrofurans, or ampicillin
are only indicated when the bacteria has localized in areas of
the body peripheral to the intestinal tract.

In Florida, salmonellosis is a reportable zoonotic disease for
both health and livestock officials. The Department of
Agriculture and Consumer Services must be notified of any birds
found to be infected with Salmonella species. If a person is
suspected of having salmonellosis, the county public health
office must be notified within 48 hours.


Colibacillosis
Colibacillosis is caused by Escherichia coli infection. E. coli
is a bacteria which normally inhabits the intestinal tract of all
animals. There are a number of different strains, many
species-specific. Not all strains are pathogenic. In poultry, E.
coli infections may cause septicemia, chronic respiratory
disease, synovitis (inflammation of the joints which can lead to
lameness), pericarditis (inflammation of the sac around the
heart), and salpingitis (inflammation of the oviduct). Humans
with colibacillosis usually manifest diarrhea which may be
complicated by other syndromes depending on the E. coli serotype.
These complications may include fever, dysentery, shock, and
purpura (multiple small purplish hemorrhages in the skin and
mucous membranes).

The incubation period is 12 hours to 5 days, although 12-72 hours
is most common. Transmission is via the fecal-oral route.
Colibacillosis is often food- or water-borne.

In most cases, symptomatic treatment (fluids, antidiarrheals) is
all that is required. In more severe infections, antibiotics such
as tetracycline and chloramphenicol may be necessary.

In Florida, colibacillosis is not a reportable zoonotic disease.


Arizona Infections (Arizonosis)
Arizona infections are caused by the bacteria Salmonella arizona
. S. arizona occurs worldwide. It occurs most frequently in
reptiles and birds, but all animals are probably susceptible. The
young are at greatest risk.

In most poultry species S. arizona infection results in reduced
egg production and hatchability. Poults and chicks show weakness,
anorexia, and shivering. Outbreaks in turkeys, chickens, and
canaries can have up to 60% mortality. In humans, diarrhea is
most common. Many infections are subclinical. Septicemia can
occur in immunocompromised individuals.

The incubation period is 6-72 hours, although 12-36 hours is most
common. Transmission is by the fecal-oral route. There is some
transmission through eggs. Infected birds can become long-term
intestinal carriers. Numerous antibiotics reduce case fatality,
but do not clear intestines of the carrier state. S. arizona is
somewhat less hardy than most salmonella but can survive for
months in soil, feed and water.

Arizona infection is not a reportable zoonotic disease in
Florida.


Eastern Equine Encephalitis
Eastern equine encephalitis (EEE) is caused by a RNA virus in the
genus Alphavirus , family Togaviridae. Outbreaks can occur in
commercially raised pheasants, chickens, bobwhite quail, ducks,
turkeys, and emus. Abdominal distress and dysentery are the most
obvious signs.

EEE is mosquito-borne. The virus circulates in a mosquito-bird
cycle in which passerine birds (i.e., song birds such as
swallows, starlings, jays, and finches) are the most common
reservoir. The mosquitoes become infected and feed on birds,
horses, and humans, further spreading the infection. In
pheasants, initial infection is mosquito-borne, but additional
dissemination occurs by pecking and cannibalism.

Most epidemics occur between late August and the first frost.
Cases may occur year-round in areas like Florida which have a
prolonged mosquito season.

EEE usually affects persons under 15 or over 50 years of age. In
adults there is a sudden onset of high fever, headache, vomiting,
and lethargy, progressing rapidly to neck stiffness, convulsions,
spasticity, delirium, tremors, stupor and coma. In children, EEE
is typically manifested by fever, headaches and vomiting for 1-2
days. After an apparent recovery, encephalitis (inflammation of
the brain) is characterized by quick onset and great severity
follows. Retardation or other permanent neurologic consequences
are common in survivors.

EEE is not a reportable zoonotic disease in Florida.


Avian Tuberculosis
Avian tuberculosis is caused by the bacteria Mycobacterium avium
which is closely related to the human and bovine tuberculosis
bacteria. In birds, M. avium causes a chronic debilitating
disease with tubercular nodules. In humans, M. avium infections
can cause local wound infections with swelling of regional lymph
nodes. The infection is most severe in immunocompromised
individuals. M. avium is spread by ingestion of food or water
contaminated by feces from shedder birds. Tuberculous poultry
flocks should be depopulated.

While most Mycobacterium infections are treatable with
antibiotics, M. avium infection is the exception. M. avium is
highly resistant to antibiotics. Surgical excision and lymph node
removal are often necessary to eliminate infection.

In Florida, avian tuberculosis is a reportable zoonotic disease
for both health and livestock officials. The Department of
Agriculture and Consumer Services must be notified of any birds
found to be infected with Mycobacterium avium . If a person is
suspected of having tuberculosis, the county public health office
must be notified within 48 hours.


Histoplasmosis
Certain fungi prefer to grow in soils enriched with avian
manures. Histoplasma capsulatum is one of these. The fungus is
also associated with construction sites and caves. Birds are not
susceptible to infection, but histoplasmosis can affect humans,
dogs, cats, cattle, sheep, horses, and many wild mammals.

The incubation period is 7-14 days. Most cases in humans are
asymptomatic. Disease may be manifested in three forms: acute
pulmonary (most common), chronic cavitary pulmonary, and
disseminated. The acute pulmonary form is influenza-like and
lasts up to several weeks. It is characterized by chills, chest
pain, nonproductive cough, fever, and malaise. The chronic form
occurs in people over 40 and resembles tuberculosis. It is
characterized by a productive cough, pus-like sputum (material
expelled from the respiratory passages), weight loss, and
shortness of breath. The disseminated form occurs in the very
young or the elderly. Lesions include enlarged spleen and liver,
and mucosal ulceration. The disseminated form of histoplasmosis
can be fatal if not treated. Amphotericin B has been used to
treat histoplasmosis.

Transmission occurs by inhalation of spores produced by growth of
the mold. Histoplasmosis is not a communicable disease. The
reservoir is the soil, especially when enriched with droppings
from birds or bats. Wet the area and wear a face mask or
respirator when working in suspect surroundings. Spraying the
soil with a formaldehyde solution has been used to kill the
fungi.

Although this disease is avian-associated, it is not a zoonotic
disease, because the reservoir is soil and not the birds. This
is, however, of little consequence to the unfortunates who become
infected.

In Florida, histoplasmosis is a reportable disease. If a person
is suspected of having histoplasmosis, the county public health
office must be notified within 48 hours.


Cryptococcosis
Another fungus that prefers to grow in soils enriched with avian
manures is Cryptococcus neoformans. The incubation period is
probably weeks. Infections are seen in many mammals, but occur
most frequently in humans, horses, dogs, and cats. Infections are
rare in birds.

Transmission of cryptococcosis is usually by inhalation of this
yeast-like fungus, although it can occasionally occur by
ingestion. Humans can pick up cryptococcosis from exposure to old
pigeon nests or droppings. In humans, cryptococcosis is
manifested as meningitis or meningoencephalitis, and it is
usually preceded by pulmonary infection with cough, blood-tinged
sputum, fever, and malaise. The course of the disease is usually
chronic. There is usually fever, cough, chest pain, and spitting
of blood from the respiratory tract, followed by headache, stiff
neck and visual disturbances.

As with histoplasmosis, this disease is avian-associated, but not
a zoonotic disease because the reservoir is soil and not the
birds.

In Florida, cryptococcosis is not a reportable disease.


Cryptosporidiosis
Cryptosporidiosis is caused by protozoa of the genus
Cryptosporidium . There are three known species, C. baileyi , C.
meleagridis and an unnamed species in quail. Cryptosporidiosis
normally causes respiratory problems in chickens and turkeys. It
can also cause gastroenteritis and diarrhea. In humans, it causes
abdominal pain, nausea, and watery diarrhea lasting 3-4 days. In
immunocompromised people, it can cause severe, persistent
diarrhea with associated malabsorption of nutrients and weight
loss.

The incubation period is 3-7 days, and it is spread via the
fecal-oral route by ingestion of infective oocysts.

In Florida, cryptosporidiosis is a reportable disease. If a
person is suspected of having cryptosporidiosis, the county
public health office must be notified within 48 hours.


Allergic Alveolitis
Allergic alveolitis, also known as pigeon breeder's lung,
budgerigar dander pneumoconiosis, and a variety of other complex
names, is one of the most significant avian zoonotic diseases. It
may occur as an acute, subacute, or chronic problem. Clinical
signs are caused by reduced lung capacity due to a
hypersensitivity reaction to feathers, dander, or fecal dust.
Inflammation of the pulmonary air exchange units (alveoli) is the
inciting lesion.

The acute form of the disease is usually precipitated by an
overwhelming exposure in a previously sensitized individual, such
as that which might occur in cleaning out a pigeon loft. Symptoms
occur within a short time, and include cough, difficult
respiration, fever, and chills. If exposure ceases at this point,
the symptoms resolve and no treatment is necessary. Chronic,
low-grade exposure is more serious, and symptoms may be
mistakenly attributed to a stubborn cold or flu. Affected
individuals have a chronic nonproductive cough, exercise
intolerance, and weight loss. Permanent lung lesions may develop,
including pulmonary fibrosis that reduces gaseous exchange and
lung capacity.

Chronic allergic alveolitis can develop in as little as 2 years,
but usually takes 10-20 years. Patients diagnosed with the
chronic form of the disease may have no choice except to
eliminate all exposure to birds. Exposure to even minute
quantities of feathers, dander, or feces may precipitate a
recurrence of severe respiratory distress. The severity of the
disease can be reduced by wearing face masks while cleaning
cages, cleaning cages daily, bathing pet birds frequently, and
installing air purification systems.

Conclusions
Bird-keepers should be aware that they can contract certain
illnesses from their birds. The frequency of disease transmission
from birds to humans is low, but the very young, the elderly, and
those with compromised immune systems should be cautious.

Many of these diseases are transmitted by ingestion of food
contaminated by fecal matter. Prevention of most of these
diseases, therefore, simply involves proper hygiene and
sanitation. Wearing a face mask to avoid inhaling bird dust is
also recommended.

If you have persistent flu-like symptoms when no one else you
know is affected, see a doctor and mention that you raise birds.
Such symptoms may be indicative of a disease spread from birds to
humans.
gratiana
am un papagal jako,l-am cumparat de 3 sapt.In ultimul timp nu respira asa bine deoarece scoate un sunet ciudat.Nu stiu ce ar putea avea si sper k ma puteti ajuta pt k am dat multi bani pe el si nici nu as vrea sa-l schimb pt k m-am atasat de el.Va rog frumos dak stiti ceva despre in legatura cu bolile papagalilor va rog sa ma ajutati.
Szimcsi
Du-l la un veterinar bun. Urgent! Nu e de glumit, daca tii la el.
fortelady
asta voiam si eu sa intreb. ce a zis veterinarul?
gratiana
QUOTE(fortelady @ Sep 19 2007, 02:57 AM) *
asta voiam si eu sa intreb. ce a zis veterinarul?

mi-a spus k imi poate da un tratament pt el dar dak pot sa-l schimb ar fi mai bine pt k nu imi garanteaza k se va face bine si este posibil sa moara crying.gif
fortelady
mergi la alt veterinar!
o ruaginte, incearca sa scrii fara k samd - e destul de greu de citit, mai ales cand nu esti obisnuit (ca mine adica) ...
divi2007
eu merg maine cu papagalul meu la doctor, pe cioc si gherute i a aparut niste firicele maroni ca niste pete nu stiu de la ce, asa e vioi se joaca dar eu merg sa fiu sigura decat sa la ma pe constinta sad.gif
mi e asa mila ca trebuie sa l bag in colivie ca nu i place , in schimb ii place in masina smile.gif
gratiana
am fost la o farmacie veterinara pentru pasari si mi-a dat ceva medicament praf pentru el,sper sa se faca bine.Am inteles ca are o boala respiratorie si din cate vad eu la el ii destul de rau pentru ca,cand respira i se misca si codita deci depune ceva efort sa poata respira.Azi ii a 2-ua zi de tratament sper ca pe sambata sa vad ceva inbunatatiri.
andria
am si eu o intrebare: vreau sa-mi iau un perus si as vrea sa fie pui, sa nu fie "in varsta" adica sa aibe cel mult 1 an... si stiti cumva vreo crescatorie prin bucuresti, de unde pot achizitiona papagaul? sau daca imi pot da seama de varsta lui dupa cioc, gherute..?

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