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> Vietas, talent sau mandarin?
Diana.
post Apr 25 2007, 09:31 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/magindesc.gif) Sint un mandarin ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/zapacitul.gif)
You're an intellectual, and you've worked hard to get where you are now. You're a strong believer in education, and you think many of the world's problems could be solved if people were more informed and more rational. You have no tolerance for sloppy or lazy thinking. It frustrates you when people who are ignorant or dishonest rise to positions of power. You believe that people can make a difference in the world, and you're determined to try.


Your scores:
Talent: 56%
Lifer: 23%
Mandarin: 59%

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The basic idea is that there are three typical paths to success in American society.

The Talent path is the one taken by entrepreneurs, inventors, artists, actors, musicians, writers, and anyone else who tries to succeed based on their individual abilities rather than by joining a large organization or obtaining formal credentials. Talents tend to be risk-takers and optimists and often they have big egos. Anyone who's gone to Hollywood to break into the film industry or quit a secure job to start their own company is likely a Talent. It's the most characteristically American of the three paths.

The Lifer path is the one created by large corporations and government agencies in the mid-20th century. Lifers join large organizations and are either content in their positions or try to rise through the ranks. Lifers tend to be risk-averse and place a high priority on things like job security and retirement plans. The civil service and the military are classic Lifer organizations, as are companies like IBM and General Motors.

The Mandarin path was created by the widespread adoption of the SAT for college admission. Lemann writes about the history of the SAT in detail in his book "The Big Test". The Mandarin path is based on academic ability and formal credentials, such as college degrees, graduate degrees, medical degrees, and law degrees. Mandarins succeed based on their ability to get into good colleges (grad schools/med schools/law schools), get their degrees, and get hired for positions that require those degrees. Mandarins tend to dominate academia, think tanks, and management consulting as well as the medical and legal profesions.
Talents tend to value individuality and boldness. Lifers tend to value loyalty and caution. Mandarins tend to value intelligence and education.

This theory cuts across traditional boundaries of career fields. The rock star is a Talent, but so is the engineer who forms a startup company to market his invention. Soldiers can be Lifers but so can social workers. Mandarins may teach postmodernism in English departments or serve as highly-paid business consultants with MBAs.

It also cuts across political lines. The Talent path tends to attract people with extreme views. Michael Moore is a Talent, but so is Ann Coulter. Rush Limbaugh and Al Franken are both pure Talents in the sense that they have no formal training in politics, but are blessed with the ability to take an attitude and a microphone and turn those into a lucrative career.

Lifers tend to be conservative in the literal (not right-wing) sense. They tend to be averse to radical change in any direction. A couple generations ago, Lifers were more optimistic -- the Organization Men (typically) who believed, "Be loyal to your company, and your company will be loyal to you." In today's era of downsizing and offshoring, the Lifer mood seems much more cynical.

Today, academic Mandarins tend to be predominantly liberal, though conservative and libertarian Mandarins make a good living at places like the Heritage Foundation, the Cato Institute, and a wide range of management consulting firms. The difference between Mandarin and Talent political figures is that Mandarins tend to focus on ideas and policies while Talents are as much media personalities as political thinkers. Noam Chomsky and Charles Murray (co-author of The Bell Curve) are both famous and controversial Mandarins -- but if you passed them on the street you probably wouldn't know who they were. If Michael Moore and Ann Coulter walked by, you would notice. Camille Paglia is a good example of someone who, despite being an academic, is temperamentally pure Talent rather than Mandarin.

Like any theory, this oversimplies some things, and I wouldn't claim that these are the only three paths to success in America or anywhere else. However, there are aspects of his theory that ring very true in my experiences in academia, government, and the private sector.
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post Apr 25 2007, 10:43 PM
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You are a Talent!

You're a risk-taker, and you follow your passions. You're determined to take on the world and succeed on your own terms. Whether in the arts, science, engineering, business, or politics, you fearlessly express your own vision of the world. You're not afraid of a fight, and you're not afraid to bet your future on your own abilities. If you find a job boring or stifling, you're already preparing your resume. You believe in doing what you love, and you're not willing to settle for an ordinary life.

Your scores:

Talent: 59%
Lifer: 41%
Mandarin: 33%


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post Apr 25 2007, 10:45 PM
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Mi se pare tare interesant testul. Si abordarea... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/magindesc.gif)
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post Apr 25 2007, 10:59 PM
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You are a Talent!

You're a risk-taker, and you follow your passions. You're determined to take on the world and succeed on your own terms. Whether in the arts, science, engineering, business, or politics, you fearlessly express your own vision of the world. You're not afraid of a fight, and you're not afraid to bet your future on your own abilities. If you find a job boring or stifling, you're already preparing your resume. You believe in doing what you love, and you're not willing to settle for an ordinary life.

Your scores:

Talent: 77%
Lifer: 26%
Mandarin: 33%

La multe intrebari nu am putut raspunde 100% corect pt ca habar nu am ce sunt alea GRE, MCAT, or LSAT si care e echivalentul lor la noi...de ex
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post Apr 27 2007, 04:34 PM
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GRE: a standardized test created and administered by the Educational Testing Service.The Educational Testing Service (or ETS) is the world's largest private educational testing and measurement organization, operating on an annual budget of approximately $900 million. ETS develops various standardized examinations primarily in the United States, but they also administer tests such as TOEFL in most nations. Many of the assessments they develop are associated with entry to US tertiary (undergraduate) and quaternary education (graduate) institutions.

MCAT: The Medical College Admission Test (MCAT) is a standardized, multiple-choice examination in the US for prospective medical students. It is designed to assess problem solving, critical thinking, reading comprehension, and writing skills in addition to knowledge of science concepts and principles. Prior to August 19, 2006, the exam was taken entirely on paper with the option of taking a computer-based version at select testing sites beginning in the fall of 2005. Starting January 27, 2007, all administrations of the exam are computer-based.

LSAT - The Law School Admission Test is an examination administered by the Law School Admission Council (LSAC), intended to provide law schools in the United States and Canada with (to quote LSAC) "a standard measure of acquired reading and verbal reasoning skills that law schools can use as one of several factors in assessing applicants.
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post May 1 2007, 08:39 PM
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You are a Lifer!

To you, a job is what pays the bills. You put in your hours, follow the rules, and then go home. Occasionally, you consider quitting, but then you think of how bad the job market is and you reconsider. Whatever happiness you get, you get from your life outside the workplace. Relationships, family, hobbies, and outside creative pursuits are what really matter to you. You're probably taking this test at work because you don't have anything better to do.

Your scores:

Talent: 44%
Lifer: 54%
Mandarin: 36%
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post May 2 2007, 02:32 PM
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You are a Lifer!


To you, a job is what pays the bills. You put in your hours, follow the rules, and then go home. Occasionally, you consider quitting, but then you think of how bad the job market is and you reconsider. Whatever happiness you get, you get from your life outside the workplace. Relationships, family, hobbies, and outside creative pursuits are what really matter to you. You're probably taking this test at work because you don't have anything better to do.


Your scores:


Talent: 38%
Lifer: 51%
Mandarin: 49%

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post May 11 2007, 10:36 PM
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Your scores:
Talent&mandarin

Talent: 49%
Lifer: 36%
Mandarin: 49%
You're a risk-taker, and you follow your passions. You're determined to take on the world and succeed on your own terms. Whether in the arts, science, engineering, business, or politics, you fearlessly express your own vision of the world. You're not afraid of a fight, and you're not afraid to bet your future on your own abilities. If you find a job boring or stifling, you're already preparing your resume. You believe in doing what you love, and you're not willing to settle for an ordinary life.<p><h3>Talent: 49%<br>Lifer: 36%<br>Mandarin: 49%<br></h3>Take the <a href="http://www.tomorrowland.us/tlm">Talent, Lifer, or Mandarin</a> quiz.<p>
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ciucinica
post May 18 2007, 10:18 PM
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You are a Talent!

You're a risk-taker, and you follow your passions. You're determined to take on the world and succeed on your own terms. Whether in the arts, science, engineering, business, or politics, you fearlessly express your own vision of the world. You're not afraid of a fight, and you're not afraid to bet your future on your own abilities. If you find a job boring or stifling, you're already preparing your resume. You believe in doing what you love, and you're not willing to settle for an ordinary life.

Your scores:

Talent: 59%
Lifer: 33%
Mandarin: 41%
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