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caitriona
post Sep 16 2009, 12:40 PM
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Buna!
Am renuntat la isotrexin. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/nusepoate.gif) Nu stiu ce s-a intamplat, era ok si dupa am avut o explozie similara cu cea provocata de retin a...insa nu se mai termina, chisturi dureroase si incet incet ma umplusem pe toata fata, asta dupa aproape 3 luni de utilizare. Am cedat nervos intr-o zi, eram pe punctul de a lua roaccutane si am renuntat la el acum cateva zile, am reluat gelul cu BP de la daniel kern si rezultatele se vad deja;un obraz s-a curatat deja impecabil si fruntea.E a treia mea incercare cu retinoizii si nu reusesc sa depasesc momentul acela critic.Din pacate nu cred ca o sa mai intorc la ei...Nu pot sta cu fata praf pt ca mai trebuie sa ma duc si ma munca si deja toata lumea ma intreba ce s-a intamplat cu fata mea, ca nu mai aveam probleme.
Cam asta e pe scurt,
Cindy, mersi frumos pt ca te-ai uitat pe ingredientele de la demachiantul l'oreal.Nu il folosesc pe fata caci am intrat si pe make up alley si aproape toate fetele au zis ca e comedogen.Stiu ca bebe, zicea ca BP ar duce in timp la aparitia ridurilor si de-aia am renuntat la el dar la mine a fost singurul care mi-a "vindecat" acneea.
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post Sep 16 2009, 03:03 PM
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caitriona, asa am citit si eu pe undeva, poate pt ca usuca si sensibilizeaza pielea?!
ai grija cu hidratarea si cu protectia solara.
ia sa dau o cautare pe net despre imbatranirea asta provocata de bp, nu-mi place ca nu-mi amintesc de unde stiu chestia asta (IMG:style_emoticons/default/closedeyes.gif)

ok, am revenit:

Although we would always recommend natural cures acne in preference to harsher chemical treatments or medications, especially if you have only mild or moderate acne, sometimes these methods do not work effectively. In this case you may want to try other treatments such as over-the-counter remedies containing benzoyl peroxide. Acne may last a long time and can even persist through the 20s and into the 30s so you need to be sure that any treatment you are using does not have long-term side effects. We will look at one of the most popular cures acne, benzoyl peroxide to see if it should be used for a long time.

Benzoyl peroxide does have some short-term side effects including irritation of the skin, dryness, reddening, burning and stinging. It also tends to bleach things it comes into contact with such as your hair or clothes. It works by increasing the oxygen level in the pores which kills the acne causing bacteria Propionibacterium acne. It does not however give you any resistance to this bacteria so you need to continue using it even after the outbreaks have died down. You will not see immediate, overnight improvement but you should see the effects over the course of two or three weeks.

It is available in many over the counter preparations which contain different concentrations including 2.5%, 5% and 10%. We recommend starting with a very low concentration so that your skin can become used to it after which you can increase the concentration slowly. Some prescription medications that contain benzoyl chloride include Duac, BenzaClin and Benzamycin. Some people experience an allergic reaction to it and in this case you should stop using it immediately.

What are the long-term effects?

As we have said benzoyl peroxide does have some short-term side effects but if you are going to be using it for very long time you need to know that there are no severe long-term side effects. It produces free radicals in the skin and there have been concerns that this may lead to skin cancer. Studies done by the University of Miami however show that there was no increased risk of skin cancer from the use of benzoyl peroxide. There have not been any other long-term side effects shown apart from and increased sensitivity to sunlight. if you're using benzyl peroxide for any length of time you should be using a good sunblock.

Conclusion

Although it is always recommended to use milder, natural cures for acne if you have very severe acne or these cures do not work for you, benzoyl peroxide is a safe alternative. Although it does have some short-term side effects they tend disappear once your skin is used to the treatment and there do not appear to be any serious long-term side effects.

For more information on acne, natural cures and treatments visit Natural Cures Acne or read Benzoyl Peroxide Products for Acne.

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Asta ar fi o parere.

Apoi:

Benzoyl Peroxide Skin Damage

Benzoyl Peroxide Cautions: Benzoyl peroxide (BP) generates free radicals in the skin. Its effect is similar to unprotected sun exposure. The redness of the skin (erythema), caused by sun exposure and BP, are both the result of free radicals (oxidative stress) upon the skin. Repeated sun exposure or BP use generates free radicals that damage the skin's structure and cellular DNA, resulting in premature aging of the skin. The extent of the damage and aging from BP is determined by the concentration of BP, the frequency of application and the duration of its use.

Because BP generates free radicals it interferes with and slows the healing process. The red and brown marks that are a part of the acne healing process may last weeks longer when BP is a regular part of the daily regimen.

BP has been linked to cancer for a number of years and many research journal entries state "benzoyl peroxide is a free radical-generating skin tumor promoting agent." Performing a word search of the words "benzoyl peroxide cancer" in PubMed in the National Library of Medicine produces 102 articles from medical publications dealing with research aspects of BP and cancer. About two-thirds of the research supports linkage between BP and skin cancer.

"In 1995 the FDA changed benzoyl peroxide from a Category I (safe) to a Category III (safety is uncertain) ingredient and stated this action (56 FR 37622) was based on new information that raised a safety concern regarding benzoyl peroxide as a tumor promoter in mice..." Additionally the FDA charged manufacturers with the responsibility of providing this information to consumers so they could make educated decisions. Many manufacturers and product marketers have not provided this information so consumers can be advised of the potential dangers. A more complete FDA statement is at the bottom of this page, for your reference.

Use of benzoyl peroxide to control acne may involve side effects and risks that should be considered in making decisions on acne treatment. Skintactix has given particular attention to providing effective treatment with no side effects and no benzoyl peroxide.

FDA / Benzoyl Peroxide Action: February 17, 1995
Food and Drug Administration (FDA) / Department of Health and Human Services
"Topical Drug Products Containing Benzoyl Peroxide: Required Labeling"
"The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is proposing additional labeling (warning and directions) for all topically-applied acne treatment drug products containing benzoyl peroxide. The warning advises consumers to avoid unnecessary sun exposure and to use a sunscreen when using a benzoyl peroxide product to treat acne..."

"The agency classified benzoyl peroxide from its previous status Category I to Category III status. This action (56 FR 37622) was based on new information that raised a safety concern regarding benzoyl peroxide as a tumor promoter in mice and a study that reported that benzoyl peroxide has tumor initiation potential."

"FDA evaluated these data and information and determined that the studies show that benzoyl peroxide is a skin tumor promoter in more than one strain of mice as well as in hamsters. To date, topical studies (which have shown only tumor promotion) have been of short duration (about 52 weeks). Although animal data and human epidemiology data are available, the agency has determined that further studies are necessary to adequately assess the tumorigenic potential of benzoyl peroxide. These studies are currently being conducted. The agency acknowledges that it may take several years for these studies to be completed and analyzed, and for the final determination to be made on benzoyl peroxide's safety.” (www.skintactix.com)

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post Sep 16 2009, 05:32 PM
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QUOTE(bebe_maria @ Sep 16 2009, 04:03 PM) *
despre imbatranirea asta provocata de bp, nu-mi place ca nu-mi amintesc de unde stiu chestia asta (IMG:style_emoticons/default/closedeyes.gif)

Ulpia a tot scris pe forum despre chestia asta, la fel ca si despre acid hyaluronic, ca ar cauza cancer.

Pastelata, spune-i farmacistei sa iti scrie si ingredientele pe care le foloseste, iti faci si tu astfel o idee ce ii prieste atat de bine tenului tau. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/322.gif)

Caitriona, mie nu mi s-a parut comedogen si adevarul este ca e destul de greu ca un gel de fata sa fie comedogen, iti curata machiajul, il clatesti foarte bine, e o chestie de cateva secunde, nu ramane pe pielea mea ta ca sa actioneze. E posibil poate in cazul in care ramane o pelicula grasa la suprafata pielii, tu trebuie sa simti asta.
Mie mi se pare mai degraba problema gelurilor ca: pot fi agresive, iritante, usuca prea mult pielea, si de astea trebuie sa ne ferim.
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post Sep 17 2009, 05:07 AM
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QUOTE(Cindy @ Sep 16 2009, 06:32 PM) *
Ulpia a tot scris pe forum despre chestia asta, la fel ca si despre acid hyaluronic, ca ar cauza cancer.


Merci (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Nu-mi plac lucrurile neclare, se pare ca totusi date foarte exacte despre BP nu exista.
Am gasit un site unde o tipa zicea ca are in jur de 40 de ani si inca mai are acnee si folosind bp a observat ca i s-au agravat si ridurile, folosea creme antirid si agrava acneea. Medicul a sfatuit-o sa renunte la bp care usuca excesiv pielea si sa foloseasca acid salicilic sau retinoizi care au dublu efect, sunt si anti acnee si anti rid.
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post Sep 18 2009, 01:06 PM
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Va spun si eu solutia prietenei mele pentru cosuri, a mers la o consultatie unde dl.dr. ia recomandat sa faca un tratament cu IPL. Rezultaul a inceput sa se vada de la3a sedinta de tratament.Facand in total 6. Partea proasta este la pret,putin cam ridicat.
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post Sep 19 2009, 09:24 PM
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Bebe, mersi pt ca ai postat informatiile.Eu as folosi retinoizi, dar nu-mi priesc am incercat de 3 ori pana acum.Pana acum BP functioneaza cel mai bine la mine.Am inceput sa folosesc alternativ cu o crema de la neutrogena cu acid salicilic si retinol(am scris cu ceva vreme in urma despre ea).O seara BP o seara neutrogena.Tu ce mai folosesti acum?Tot produse de la Paula?
Apropo de SPF, eu folosesc zilnic, indiferent de anotimp.A devenit obisnuinta, ca mi se pare ciudat sa ies din casa fara.

Ma gandeam sa ii scriu Paulei sa o intreb ce informatii are despre efectele adverse ale BP-ului.
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post Sep 24 2009, 05:12 PM
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Cindy, farmacista face foarte,foarte multe preparate-majoritatea in functie de ceea ce vede ca are nevoie fiecare persoana caruia ii prepara.Chiar imi spunea zilele astea ca daca o intreb cum a preparat o solutie de acum 3 saptamani n-ar mai sti sa spuna.

Eu ajunsesem plina iar de cosuri mari,dureroase,aproape chisturi in lant(de fapt, era foarte iritata, incat orice aplicam nu functiona).Cand m-a vazut s-a speriat si mi-a preparat o crema "bomba" -a zis ca nu stie ce n-a pus(in sensul ca foarte multe - printre care si antibiotice Unidox). In 3 zile chisturile au disparut, nu s-au mai format altele, iar pielea arata surprinzator de bine(am si ceva exfoliant in ea, care totodata usuca-sau poate altceva e responsabil de uscat, in orice caz mi-a mai dat o crema pentru hranire cu multivitamine, ulei de masline, si ceva fagure de miere mai special).De-a dreptul minunat.

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Nu e nevoie numai de hidratare, pielea are nevoie si de hranire.Vorbesc din experienta proprie.Aveam fata atat de uscata incat aplicam tone de crema hidratanta si degeaba.Cu crema asta de hranire stau numai in casa, va dati seama cum arata, insa si dupa ce o indepartez e naaaaais:)

Imi cer scuze pentru exprimarea de balta, sunt in graba.

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post Oct 2 2009, 12:48 AM
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Eh Pastelata, nu cred ca nu tine minte, probabil ii este teama sa nu ii fure cineva secretul retetelor magice. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

Apropo de discutia despre benzoyl peroxide m-am uitat de curiozitate pe FDA (Food& Drug Administration, care e un fel de customer protection cred) si nu scria nimic despre aceste efecte adverse, spunea doar ca mareste sensibilitatea la UV si trebuie avut grija in acest sens.
Despre parabeni (ca tot exista marele razboi), spunea ca sunt periculosi in concentratii peste 25%. In contextul in care ei sunt folositi de regula in concentratii de 0.01-0.3%, vedeti ca sunt ultimii pe lista de ingrediente in majoritatea cazurilor. Ei protejeaza impotriva proliferarii microbiene, sunt eficienti impotriva unei serii largi de microorganisme. Mai multi parabeni (ati observat ca sunt listati mai multi cateodata) permite folosirea lor la nivele ale concentratiei scazute si creste eficienta de conservare, ceea ce este un lucru bun.

Aveti grija, de multe ori toate strategiile astea sunt doar de marketing viral, evident se raspandesc foarte rapid astfel de zvonuri socante si servesc foarte bine intereselor produselor asa-numite naturale (ca unele doar asa nu sunt!!!) care scriu parabens free sau bp free si gata s-au scos, sunt foarte vandabile.
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Eh Cindy, oricum eu nu am intrebat-o ce a pus in solutii. Dar stai linistita, ca nu-l invoca pe Allah si nici nu se da de 3 ori peste cap cand le prepara! Sunt substante normale, care se folosesc in mod tot normal in tratarea acneei (eritromicina, argila, sulf...asta din ce am mai prins cand imi spunea despre una,alta).
Mi-a mai recomandat ceai de salvie(de baut si comprese) si tinctura de salvie.
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Da, adevarul e ca fix la Allah m-am gandit. :|
Ideea e sa stii ca pe mine personal chiar nu ma intereseaza, nu am acnee& co, era pentru tine sfatul ca sa stii ce iti prieste, ce nu si sa nu depinzi 'orbeste' de o persoana. Anyway, nu conteaza, deja am dezbatut prea mult subiectul.
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